Evidence of meeting #70 for Finance in the 41st Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site.) The winning word was clauses.

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On the agenda

MPs speaking

Also speaking

Gordon Boissonneault  Senior Advisor, Economic Analysis and Forecasting Division, Demand and Labour Analysis, Economic and Fiscal Policy Branch, Department of Finance
Sue Foster  Acting Director General, Policy, Appeals and Quality, Service Canada
Margaret Strysio  Director, Strategic Planning and Reporting, Parks Canada Agency
Stephen Bolton  Director, Border Law Enforcement Strategies Division, Public Safety Canada
Michael Zigayer  Senior Counsel, Criminal Law Policy Section, Department of Justice
Garry Jay  Chief Superintendent, Acting Director General, HR Workforce Programs and Services, Royal Canadian Mounted Police
Jeff Hutcheson  Director, HQ Programs and Financial Advisory Services, Coporate Management and Comptrollership, Royal Canadian Mounted Police
Darryl Hirsch  Senior Policy Analyst, Intelligence Policy and Coordination, Department of Public Safety
Ian Wright  Executive Advisor, Financial Markets Division, Financial Sector Policy Branch, Department of Finance
Nigel Harrison  Manager, Legislative and Parliamentary Affairs, Department of Fisheries and Oceans
David Lee  Director, Office of Legislative and Regulatory Modernization, Policy, Planning and International Affairs Directorate, Health Products and Food Branch, Department of Health
Anthony Giles  Director General, Strategic Policy, Analysis and Workplace Information Directorate, Department of Human Resources and Skills Development
Bruno Rodrigue  Chief, Income Security, Federal-Provincial Relations and Social Policy Branch, Department of Finance
Gerard Peets  Senior Director, Strategy and Planning Directorate, Department of Industry
Suzanne Brisebois  Director General, Policy and Operations, Parole Board of Canada, Public Safety Canada
Louise Laflamme  Chief, Marine Policy and Regulatory Affairs, Department of Transport
Judith Buchanan  Acting Senior Manager, Labour Standards Operations, Human Resources and Skills Development Canada
Mark Hodgson  Senior Policy Analyst, Labour Markets, Employment and Learning, Department of Finance
Stephen Johnson  Director General, Evaluation Directorate, Strategic Policy and Research Branch, Department of Human Resources and Skills Development
James McNamee  Deputy Director, Horizontal Immigration Policy Division, Department of Citizenship and Immigration
Graham Barr  Director General, Transition Planning and Coordination, Shared Services Canada

11:30 p.m.

Some hon. members

Hear, hear!

11:30 p.m.

Conservative

Shelly Glover Conservative Saint Boniface, MB

Last but not least, the interpreters—God bless you. I don't know how you do this job. I can barely get through English at this time of night, let alone try to sort out two languages at the pace that we speak and argue and so on and so forth. So a standing ovation to our interpreters, who deserve our respect and our utmost gratitude. Thank you very much on behalf of at least this side, and I'm sure my colleagues agree.

11:30 p.m.

Some hon. members

Hear, hear!

11:30 p.m.

Conservative

Shelly Glover Conservative Saint Boniface, MB

In any event, my five minutes is probably almost done, but I do want to say that the government would like to see the short title stay, because it is reflective of what's in the bill.

Thank you again, Chair.

Thanks to everyone who stayed and took part.

11:30 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative James Rajotte

Thank you, Ms. Glover.

I have indications from Ms. Nash that she will speak for a couple of minutes on the short title, and then there will be no comments on the title. Once a couple of minutes are done on the short title, then we can go to the title, and we'll actually finish tonight.

Is that acceptable? It's the same amount of time, so....

11:35 p.m.

NDP

Peggy Nash NDP Parkdale—High Park, ON

We were just warming up.

11:35 p.m.

NDP

Wayne Marston NDP Hamilton East—Stoney Creek, ON

Yes. I thought we could do this tomorrow night, just to repeat.

11:35 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative James Rajotte

Okay. You have two minutes on the short title.

11:35 p.m.

NDP

Peggy Nash NDP Parkdale—High Park, ON

I want to make the point—and I know we've all been at this for a long time—that the short title of the bill, about jobs, growth, and long-term prosperity.... My colleague mentioned that so many other things are rolled up in this bill that don't pertain to finance or economic issues.

I also want to make the point that through this budget and the budget implementation act we've heard about $5.2 billion in cuts that the $20 million private agency has recommended, 19,200 public sector jobs. The Parliamentary Budget Officer says that when you add up previously announced cuts, we're looking at cuts of $10.8 billion and 26,800 jobs lost. That's 26,800 public sector jobs lost. These are services. These are programs Canadians need.

We've also heard the PBO and other witnesses talk about a drag on the economy. The point I'm making is that while the short title talks about jobs, growth, and prosperity, in fact the net impact of this budget implementation act will be the opposite: it will be a drag on our economy and it will slow our recovery. We have heard more witnesses talk about that.

I could go on about unemployment and about how between one in four and one in three of the net new jobs are going to temporary foreign workers, but I won't. I will save that for a speech in the House of Commons.

I think the short title of this bill has less to do with the reality and the impact of the bill and more to do with Conservative talking points. The two just don't add up. I really wanted to get that on the record.

Having said that, I want to thank the staff, the interpreters, the chair, and my colleagues for this time. It is unfortunate that we had to debate such weighty and substantive issues in such a rushed fashion.

Thank you, Mr. Chair, for allowing me that time.

11:35 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative James Rajotte

Thank you, Ms. Nash.

I had indications Mr. Jean wanted a short word.

11:35 p.m.

Conservative

Brian Jean Conservative Fort McMurray—Athabasca, AB

If nothing is permitted to be said on the long title, because that's where I was—

11:35 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative James Rajotte

No, you can.

11:35 p.m.

Conservative

Brian Jean Conservative Fort McMurray—Athabasca, AB

I was holding out for a minute on the long title.

11:35 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative James Rajotte

You want to do a minute on the long title?

11:35 p.m.

Conservative

Brian Jean Conservative Fort McMurray—Athabasca, AB

I really wanted to go on the long title.

11:35 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative James Rajotte

Shall the short title, which is the Jobs, Growth and Long-term Prosperity Act, carry?

11:35 p.m.

Some hon. members

Agreed.

On division.

11:35 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative James Rajotte

The short title carries on division.

On the title, Mr. Jean, briefly.

11:35 p.m.

Conservative

Brian Jean Conservative Fort McMurray—Athabasca, AB

Very briefly, Mr. Chair.

In a few days I will have been here for eight years. I've thoroughly enjoyed myself here, but I have to say that I disagree with Mr. Marston and Ms. Nash. I respect their positions, I truly do, as I do those of Scott Brison and the Liberal Party.

Clearly, in my mind, this is a budget that speaks right to the title itself. It is a title and a budget that deals with growth. In dealing with the environment it deals with growth and jobs. In relation to employment it deals with growth and jobs and the economy in relation to every page of the budget itself.

I think it's a great budget for Canadians and for our future. I'm very proud to stand behind it. I've been waiting eight years to do this.

On behalf of Mr. Hoback, I would like to say as well that this budget focuses on the economy like a laser. As I said, I think it's a great budget, and I'm very happy to be here to support this budget, including of course my favourite thing to see in the budget, which is, frankly, the elimination of Kyoto.

Thank you.

11:35 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative James Rajotte

Thank you.

Shall the long title carry?

11:35 p.m.

Some hon. members

Agreed.

11:35 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative James Rajotte

Is it on division?

11:35 p.m.

NDP

Peggy Nash NDP Parkdale—High Park, ON

On division.

11:35 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative James Rajotte

It is on division.

Shall the bill carry?

11:35 p.m.

Some hon. members

Agreed.

On division.