Finance Committee on Nov. 1st, 2018

[Pierre Poilievre, Conservative, Carleton, ON]

Mr. Chair, I raise a point of order.

[The Chair, Liberal, Wayne Easter]

Let's hear your point of order. If it's similar to the same point of order, I'm ruling it out of order.

[Pierre Poilievre, Conservative, Carleton, ON]

I have no doubt that you don't want questions asked about this because they're very inconvenient for your government. That is why—

[The Chair, Liberal, Wayne Easter]

You are out of order.

Mr. McLeod.

[Pierre Poilievre, Conservative, Carleton, ON]

I'm sorry, you are out of order, Mr. Chair.

[The Chair, Liberal, Wayne Easter]

You are out of order.

Mr. McLeod.

[Pierre Poilievre, Conservative, Carleton, ON]

Mr. Chair, I have another point of order.

[The Chair, Liberal, Wayne Easter]

Mr. McLeod.

[Pierre Poilievre, Conservative, Carleton, ON]

Mr. Chair, you are out of order. You are failing to allow me to ask my question.

I have a point of order, Mr. Chair.

[An hon. member]

Point of order, Mr. Chair....

[Michael McLeod, Liberal, Northwest Territories, NT]

My question is on part 2—

[Pierre Poilievre, Conservative, Carleton, ON]

I have a point of order, Mr. Chair.

[Michael McLeod, Liberal, Northwest Territories, NT]

If I could go back to part 2, on assessment compliance—

[An hon. member]

Point of order, Mr. Chair....

[Michael McLeod, Liberal, Northwest Territories, NT]

I wanted to know if any part of that section would have an impact on the northern residents deduction—

[Pierre Poilievre, Conservative, Carleton, ON]

I have a point of order, Mr. Chair.

[The Chair, Liberal, Wayne Easter]

Is it a new point of order, or is it not?

[Pierre Poilievre, Conservative, Carleton, ON]

It is.

[The Chair, Liberal, Wayne Easter]

Mr. McLeod, please hold on.

Let's hear your new point of order.

[Pierre Poilievre, Conservative, Carleton, ON]

The witness has indicated that he has answers. At present he is prepared to answer the questions that I am posing with regard to the HST application to the carbon tax. Given that he has those answers, he is prepared to provide them, as he has said before this committee. He is the one who said he has documents here, with which he can answer these questions. I am simply asking that he be allowed to do that and that he be allowed to answer my questions.

[The Chair, Liberal, Wayne Easter]

I am saying we do not want to get into a situation. At a previous meeting, this committee decided to farm out certain sections of Bill C-86 to other committees. We need them to do their work first, and they will report back to us. If we go down this road where we are doing the work before they have an opportunity to do it, we may as well not have farmed it out in the first place. It will be duplication.

We made a motion as a committee to farm those sections out to them. Mr. Mercille may be prepared to answer this question, but the next witness who comes before us on another section might not be. When we have farmed it out to another committee, we've given them time to report back so that we can look at the recommendations and deal with it then.

That's how I'm ruling. Pierre, I just think that's fair.

[Pierre Poilievre, Conservative, Carleton, ON]

I have to say that in general, Mr. Chair, you have been fair. You are a member of Parliament with integrity. On this point, we are dealing with a matter of taxation. All I'm saying is that on a matter of taxation I be allowed to ask two or three questions in order to get clarification.

I understand that you believe that some other sections should be studied by the environment committee. I don't have a problem with the environment committee doing that.

[The Chair, Liberal, Wayne Easter]

Okay: Can we save some time here? I'll let Mr. Maguire in—

[Pierre Poilievre, Conservative, Carleton, ON]

Fine.

[The Chair, Liberal, Wayne Easter]

—and I believe Mr. Julian wants in on this point of order, and then Mr. Fergus. Then we'll see where we go.

Mr. Maguire.