Evidence of meeting #33 for Finance in the 42nd Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was alberta.

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On the agenda

MPs speaking

Also speaking

Jim Saunderson  Assistant Deputy Minister, Alberta Region, Department of Western Economic Diversification
James Meddings  Assistant Deputy Minister, Policy and Strategic Direction (Ottawa), Department of Western Economic Diversification
Kent Estabrooks  Vice-President, New Brunswick, Atlantic Canada Opportunities Agency
Kalie Hatt-Kilburn  Director of Policy, Advocacy and Coordination, New Brunswick , Atlantic Canada Opportunities Agency
Manon Brassard  Deputy Minister – President , Economic Development Agency of Canada for the Regions of Quebec
Pierre-Marc Mongeau  Vice-President, Operations, Economic Development Agency of Canada for the Regions of Quebec
Patrick Dorsey  Vice-President, Prince Edward Island, Atlantic Canada Opportunities Agency
Lynne Beairsto  Director of Corporate Programs and Services, Prince Edward Island, Atlantic Canada Opportunities Agency

6:25 p.m.

Deputy Minister – President , Economic Development Agency of Canada for the Regions of Quebec

Manon Brassard

CED can hold its own here.

The first condition is to have good projects. We currently have some exciting projects that are gearing up. These are interesting projects with interesting financial structures.

There are also various programs. CED's programs can help businesses that contribute to the electrification of transportation, without necessarily covering everything. For example, CED can help a business that works on one component of a battery that will have a long life or autonomy. That's where CED wants to position itself.

There are also government loans in innovation and clean technologies that are also suggested a great deal. So Quebec can position itself on all fronts to move forward with this.

6:25 p.m.

Liberal

Steven MacKinnon Liberal Gatineau, QC

And the possibilities—

6:25 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Wayne Easter

We'll have to stop the—

6:25 p.m.

Liberal

Steven MacKinnon Liberal Gatineau, QC

The Outaouais hot air balloon festival is a good investment. I would like to point that out.

Thank you for being here today.

6:25 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Wayne Easter

I see. It's his pet project.

Thank you very much Madame Brassard, Monsieur Lemieux, and Monsieur Mongeau for your presentation and for answering questions.

We will suspend, and then we will turn to Prince Edward Island.

6:35 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Wayne Easter

I will call the meeting back to order.

For the next hour we have ACOA Prince Edward Island here. Welcome to Patrick Dorsey, the vice-president for P.E.I., and Lynne Beairsto, the director of corporate programs and services.

Pat, I understand you have a presentation. We'll go to questions after that.

I think you're aware that this is the first day of pre-budget consultations. We see regional development agencies performing an important role in terms of attaining growth in this country. The thrust of the questions will be along that line, of how we achieve better growth within your sphere of responsibility.

The floor is yours.

6:35 p.m.

Patrick Dorsey Vice-President, Prince Edward Island, Atlantic Canada Opportunities Agency

Thank you, Mr. Chair.

Committee members, good evening. Thank you for the opportunity to speak about the economy of Prince Edward Island and ACOA's work to foster economic growth. As the chair pointed out, I'm joined today by Lynne Beairsto.

P.E.I., as you well know, is Canada's smallest province, with a population of about 146,000. Outside of Charlottetown, the province is largely rural. Its primary industries of farming, fishing, and tourism reflect this. These industries, key drivers of the island's economy, have adapted in recent years to global trends and emerging market opportunities. ACOA was a central player in the transformation and growth of several sectors that have emerged to play key roles in the province's economy.

While the economy is performing relatively well, there are challenges, including access to skilled labour, an aging population, and not optimal levels of innovation and productivity. ACOA's investments target these challenges and foster continued growth in the priority industry sectors.

ACOA supports economic growth in three key ways: supporting business, with a focus on innovation; supporting infrastructure to nurture economic growth and R and D and build on community strengths; and representing P.E.I.'s interests in policy development and coordination of federal programs.

The food sector remains the primary economic driver for our province, accounting for 18% of GDP, over half of provincial exports, and 10,000 jobs in food production and manufacturing in rural communities.

PEI Mussel King is a rural family-owned business that grows, harvests, and sells over five million pounds of fresh mussels annually, more than half of which are exported. ACOA has helped the company increase productivity, create value-added products, and expand its workforce to 70 employees.

ACOA also supports food-focused R and D. A key driver of growth for this sector in coming years will be the Food Island Partnership, an industry-led initiative that brings together food producers, culinary experts, and researchers to create products, expand exports, and promote P.E.I. as a culinary tourism destination.

With roots in the food sector, the bioscience industry accounts for 3% of the province's GDP, employs about 1,400 people, and has more than tripled in size in revenues in the past 10 years. Growth in the bioscience sector will be accelerated by the $14-million federal investment to establish Natural Products Canada at the University of Prince Edward Island, announced earlier this year by Minister Bains.

Aerospace and advanced manufacturing are relatively new to P.E.I.'s economy, but employ over 900 people and account for 18% of total exports and close to 5% of provincial GDP. The main aerospace cluster is at Slemon Park, where Vector Aerospace is an anchor tenant with annual sales of $140 million and 445 employees. With ACOA's support, Vector develops state-of-the-art aircraft engine repair techniques to enable them to take on new work.

P.E.I. is a world leader in renewable energy, and home to the Wind Energy Institute of Canada. Wind energy currently supplies about 30% of the province's electricity.

Aspin Kemp & Associates, which started in 2010 with eight employees and now has 125, is a good example of ACOA's support in clean tech. The company is a global leader in the development of power management and energy storage solutions for the marine and oil and gas industries.

The last sector I will touch on is another traditional industry that has transformed itself. Tourism employs 15,000 people and generates close to 7% of GDP for our province. ACOA provides direct support to operators and communities to capitalize on trends and opportunities. For example, the strategic tourism expansion program brings community stakeholders together to identify their tourism potential and build a collaborative approach to developing local assets.

The program has worked well across Atlantic Canada, and is quickly becoming a best practice. It was developed by the Tourism Atlantic group, based in ACOA P.E.I.'s office, with a mandate to support tourism across Atlantic Canada. Tourism Atlantic also administers the Atlantic Canada Tourism Partnership, a $20-million three-year partnership between governments and industry that promotes the region to key markets in the United States and overseas.

ACOA also works with communities in a number of ways to support economic growth.

We help communities build on their strengths. For example, the rural town of North Rustico developed its waterfront area to showcase its marine and Acadian heritage and to provide commercial and performance space for local artists. We also work with P.E.I.'s indigenous communities to advance their economic development priorities.

ACOA's main partner in economic development is the province. Trade Team PEI is an example of a federal-provincial partnership that supports the international business development activities from export readiness to trade missions. This is a successful partnership, with P.E.I. leading the country in export in the last two years. The agency and the provincial government also work together to address challenges such as an aging population and skilled labour shortages by encouraging international immigration; and we work with post-secondary institutions on international student recruitment and retention.

Looking ahead, ACOA remains focused on delivering results for the province. With the Atlantic growth strategy reinforcing our collaborative approach, we see even more opportunities to address economic challenges and drive future growth.

Mr. Chair, thank you for the opportunity. I'm glad to speak.

6:40 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Wayne Easter

Thank you for the presentation.

Turning to Mr. MacKinnon, you have five minutes.

6:40 p.m.

Liberal

Steven MacKinnon Liberal Gatineau, QC

Thank you, Mr. Chair.

Thank you, Mr. Dorsey and Ms. Beairsto, for coming today. The exercise we're engaged in, of course, is a pre-budget consultation. I think to the credit of the chair, we've spent a lot of time today, and will in the coming days, with regional development agencies on their priorities; and on our overriding mandate, which is to provide advice to the minister on how we get more growth out of this economy, how we get more innovation in the Canadian economy, and how we leverage the strengths of any particular region or province in order to achieve that.

Your presentation, Mr. Dorsey, speaks eloquently to some of the successes and some of your priorities. We had your New Brunswick counterpart in earlier, and I know immigration has become a bit of a touchstone and a key issue in Atlantic Canada; and some significant announcements were made in the past several months in that regard. You mentioned it briefly in your statement, but can you tell us how ACOA in P.E.I. is supporting that policy thrust of the province?

6:40 p.m.

Vice-President, Prince Edward Island, Atlantic Canada Opportunities Agency

Patrick Dorsey

I think it's important to state that one of the key impediments to economic growth for our province is population, having a critical mass. A population of 146,000 presents its own challenges. We recognize that a few thousand more people would make a big difference in terms of economic growth. I think it's a key cornerstone of the provincial government's strategy to increase growth, but it's ours as well.

We see it a couple of ways. Number one, there's this idea of bringing people who are not born and raised in Prince Edward Island to our province—new Canadians. We've worked with the chamber of commerce and the University of Prince Edward Island and Holland College on international student recruitment efforts, with third parties around retention and settlement services for island entrepreneurs, and with businesses, because many of these folks who are coming from the Far East are looking to invest in our province. So it's a matter of trying to link those people up with potential partners in the province. We have a program with the Charlottetown chamber of commerce called P.E.I. connectors that is doing just that.

The other piece, Chair, would be around population growth in the context of creating opportunities for young islanders to stay at home. We've seen some progress in that regard; there's still much more to do. One of the ways we see achieving that is by diversifying the economy, to bring the traditional industries to value-added, where they're able to afford to pay higher wages.

We think Prince Edward Island has all the amenities to attract people and to retain people, but clearly economic growth is important. Our focus has been on new start-ups. With the provincial government, we just established the Startup Zone in Charlottetown, which right now has 20 new start-up companies in an incubator-style environment where they can collaborate, work together, and create partnerships; but also they can access business services that they require to get their products to market and to support them.

I think it's a multi-pronged approach to support population growth that is very key to economic success.

6:45 p.m.

Liberal

Steven MacKinnon Liberal Gatineau, QC

Structurally, within ACOA, you're also running four Atlantic Canada tourism partnerships. Did we hear that correctly earlier? In terms of identifying those areas of strength—food, tourism, and others—do you feel you're equipped with all the tools required in order to make the kinds of investments to get that growth?

6:45 p.m.

Vice-President, Prince Edward Island, Atlantic Canada Opportunities Agency

Patrick Dorsey

I think so. Most of our project development is done with the provincial government in collaboration, so we've an opportunity to share on priorities. The Atlantic growth strategy laid out five pillars where provincial premiers and federal ministers decided where they wanted to coordinate their efforts, and that will inform us as well.

The provincial government of P.E.I. is aligned with us in terms of all of these sectors that we see as key to development, but increasingly it's important to build on our traditional strengths as well, and that lies in the fishery and the agricultural sectors, bringing those from commodity-based sectors to more value-added. I think that's where some really interesting opportunity lies.

6:45 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Wayne Easter

Thank you both.

Ms. Raitt, five minutes.

6:45 p.m.

Conservative

Lisa Raitt Conservative Milton, ON

Thank you for coming.

As you probably are aware, I'm from Cape Breton, Nova Scotia. I fully understand the importance of ACOA to the region.

I'm going to ask you questions about how you deliver on the mandate that the government has given to you, and I'm going to ask for facts and figures. If you don't have them with you today, I'd appreciate getting them later.

My understanding is that one of the programs you administer is the Atlantic innovation fund. How many applications are there, and how long is it to determination on these applications that you are currently processing within the P.E.I. office?

6:45 p.m.

Vice-President, Prince Edward Island, Atlantic Canada Opportunities Agency

Patrick Dorsey

In terms of applications in-house, we can get you that information. I don't have that at my fingertips. The Atlantic innovation program is a fairly rigorous process. It focuses on R and D and innovation, increasing the productivity of firms. It also keys in on developing partnerships with research institutions where companies can get access to good research.

In terms of the timeline, I don't have that in terms of Prince Edward Island, but we can get that, Mr. Chair.

6:45 p.m.

Conservative

Lisa Raitt Conservative Milton, ON

If you're asking for more money, Mr. Dorsey, you should have the number of applications that you've processed, and how long it takes for people to access this money. I think it is a metric that this committee deserves to know.

6:45 p.m.

Vice-President, Prince Edward Island, Atlantic Canada Opportunities Agency

6:45 p.m.

Conservative

Lisa Raitt Conservative Milton, ON

The second question I have has to do with the business development program, the same question. How many applications were there, and how long does it take in order to process these applications so that the government money that's promised to these regions is actually in the hands of those who reside in the province?

6:50 p.m.

Vice-President, Prince Edward Island, Atlantic Canada Opportunities Agency

Patrick Dorsey

Last year we had 152 project approvals in the business development program. The service standard for the BDP is 75 days for a decision—

6:50 p.m.

Conservative

Lisa Raitt Conservative Milton, ON

Right.

6:50 p.m.

Vice-President, Prince Edward Island, Atlantic Canada Opportunities Agency

Patrick Dorsey

—and we're meeting that service date.

6:50 p.m.

Conservative

Lisa Raitt Conservative Milton, ON

You're meeting 75 days?

6:50 p.m.

Vice-President, Prince Edward Island, Atlantic Canada Opportunities Agency

Patrick Dorsey

Yes, we are.

6:50 p.m.

Conservative

Lisa Raitt Conservative Milton, ON

Okay, that's excellent. Well done. That's not what I'm hearing from other places.

The final one has to do with the Canada 150 community infrastructure program. Can you tell me how many applications you've received, and what is your turnaround time for this program?

6:50 p.m.

Vice-President, Prince Edward Island, Atlantic Canada Opportunities Agency

Patrick Dorsey

We made 19 approvals on that program thus far, totalling about $1.12 million. Our full allotment for Prince Edward Island is just over $5 million.

Do you have any numbers on that?

Sorry, it's $2.4 million.