Evidence of meeting #84 for Finance in the 42nd Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was businesses.

A video is available from Parliament.

On the agenda

MPs speaking

Also speaking

Roch Huppé  Chief Financial Officer and Assistant Commissioner, Finance and Administration Branch, Canada Revenue Agency
Ted Gallivan  Assistant Commissioner, International, Large Business and Investigations Branch, Canada Revenue Agency

5:30 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Wayne Easter

We need to get it drafted.

Could we have the clerk draft such a letter and I'll pass it by the subcommittee members tomorrow in the House, just without a formal meeting?

5:30 p.m.

Liberal

Greg Fergus Liberal Hull—Aylmer, QC

Yes.

5:30 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Wayne Easter

Would that be okay?

5:30 p.m.

Some hon. members

Yes.

5:30 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Wayne Easter

The bells are ringing. Can we get agreement to keep going? It's a 30-minute bell.

5:30 p.m.

Liberal

Greg Fergus Liberal Hull—Aylmer, QC

Yes. We have 28 minutes left.

5:30 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Wayne Easter

Pierre.

5:30 p.m.

NDP

Pierre-Luc Dusseault NDP Sherbrooke, QC

At what point can we have the different divisions?

5:30 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Wayne Easter

We're open to your point of view.

5:30 p.m.

NDP

Pierre-Luc Dusseault NDP Sherbrooke, QC

I would send part 4, division 1, to the trade committee; part 4, division 4, to government operations, on Shared Services Canada; and part 4, division 10, to the justice committee, on the Judges Act.

I would send division 11 to human resources, to employment and social development or something like that—the HUMA committee.

The other one was considered by my colleague.

5:30 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Wayne Easter

Okay. Is that it?

5:30 p.m.

NDP

Pierre-Luc Dusseault NDP Sherbrooke, QC

I think so.

5:30 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Wayne Easter

Let's work through it. Could we just get agreement or non-agreement point by point?

Part 4, division 1, deals with trade, with special import measures, and is talking about duties, to a certain extent. Is there agreement to insert that as a proposal to the trade committee?

Do you want to vote?

5:30 p.m.

Liberal

Greg Fergus Liberal Hull—Aylmer, QC

I'm opposed. There is not an agreement.

5:30 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Wayne Easter

Let's vote on it.

All those in favour of inserting part 4, division 1, and sending that section to the trade committee with the request?

(Motion negatived [See Minutes of Proceedings])

On part 4, division 4, which deals with Shared Services Canada, are there any comments?

5:35 p.m.

Liberal

Greg Fergus Liberal Hull—Aylmer, QC

Mr. Dusseault, can you explain your reasoning for that again?

5:35 p.m.

NDP

Pierre-Luc Dusseault NDP Sherbrooke, QC

Shared Services Canada is in the purview of the Standing Committee on Government Operations and Estimates. So I would say, from experience, that it's the most capable of studying the issue.

5:35 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Wayne Easter

I think if you go to the act, Pierre, you'll see it's a fairly minor change. All it's adding is “or perform any of the duties”. It's mainly a wording change. In any event, we'll have to vote on it.

The motion is lost.

5:35 p.m.

Liberal

Greg Fergus Liberal Hull—Aylmer, QC

Sorry, Mr. Chair, I voted in favour.

5:35 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Wayne Easter

You voted in favour? Okay.

(Motion agreed to [See Minutes of Proceedings])

My mistake. That one is carried, so we'll send a letter there.

Part 4, division 10, has to do with the pay for the chief justice of Canada and others. That's what it is spelling out there. Is there any discussion? All those in favour of sending that to the justice committee?

(Motion negatived [See Minutes of Proceedings])

Part 4, division 11, is on human resources. It's the special benefits and benefit periods.

Is there any discussion, any point you want to make, Pierre?

(Motion negatived [See Minutes of Proceedings])

Okay, we'll add part 4, division 4, to the letter. We're agreed on that.

5:35 p.m.

Liberal

Jennifer O'Connell Liberal Pickering—Uxbridge, ON

Sorry, we'd like to go through the part 4 that was originally proposed.

5:35 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Wayne Easter

I thought we agreed on those.

5:35 p.m.

Liberal

Jennifer O'Connell Liberal Pickering—Uxbridge, ON

No, I'm sorry. We asked questions of clarification. We asked if we could vote on each one.

5:35 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Wayne Easter

Oh, I thought we agreed on them. I think we did agree on them.

5:35 p.m.

Liberal

Jennifer O'Connell Liberal Pickering—Uxbridge, ON

All right, that's fine.