Evidence of meeting #95 for Finance in the 42nd Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was pbo.

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MPs speaking

Also speaking

Glenn Campbell  Assistant Deputy Minister, Canada Infrastructure Bank Transition Office, Office of Infrastructure of Canada
Matt de Vlieger  Acting Director General, Strategic Policy and Planning, Department of Citizenship and Immigration
Karine Paré  Executive Director, Cost Management, Finance Branch, Department of Citizenship and Immigration
Duncan Shaw  Director, Employment Insurance Part II Benefits & Measures, Employment Programs Policy & Design, Skills & Employment Branch, Department of Employment and Social Development
Trevor McGowan  Senior Legislative Chief, Legislative Review, Tax Legislation Division, Tax Policy Branch, Department of Finance
Jenna Robbins  Chief, Employment and Education Section, Personal Income Tax Division, Tax Policy Branch, Department of Finance
Mathieu Bourgeois  Tax Policy Advisor, Sales Tax Division, Tax Policy Branch, Department of Finance
Michèle Govier  Chief, Trade Rules, International Trade Policy Division, International Trade and Finance Branch, Department of Finance
Allen Sutherland  Assistant Secretary, Machinery of Government, Privy Council Office
Don Booth  Director, Strategic Policy, Privy Council Office

8:50 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Wayne Easter

Mr. Dusseault, go ahead.

8:50 p.m.

NDP

Pierre-Luc Dusseault NDP Sherbrooke, QC

Mr. Chair, in the same vein, you could rule the amendment out of order. I don't really see the connection with Bill C-44 and its scope. I don't know where my colleague's comments are coming from. So I would like to see you rule on the admissibility of the amendment.

8:50 p.m.

Liberal

Greg Fergus Liberal Hull—Aylmer, QC

Mr. Chair, we should also check this with the clerk.

8:50 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Wayne Easter

No, it is not declared out of order. The budget bills are very broad in their nature and this does clear up some of the wording.

Mr. Albas, go ahead.

8:50 p.m.

Conservative

Dan Albas Conservative Central Okanagan—Similkameen—Nicola, BC

I would seek some clarification on that. Maybe I'll ask the officials.

Is this a stand-alone amendment that was not included in the original BIA, or is this actually something that is correcting something in the BIA if there was a drafting error?

I am asking the officials.

8:55 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Wayne Easter

Who wants to go?

Mr. Booth.

8:55 p.m.

Director, Strategic Policy, Privy Council Office

Don Booth

Sorry. Could you repeat the question, sir?

8:55 p.m.

Conservative

Dan Albas Conservative Central Okanagan—Similkameen—Nicola, BC

When the BIA was originally submitted, was this clause included, or is this a latecomer clause, so to speak, where you're adding something into the budget implementation act?

8:55 p.m.

Assistant Secretary, Machinery of Government, Privy Council Office

Allen Sutherland

It's a consequential amendment. It's the result of a numbering change.

8:55 p.m.

Conservative

Dan Albas Conservative Central Okanagan—Similkameen—Nicola, BC

Okay, but originally was this part of the BIA, and now you are changing the BIA itself, or is this an additional clause which is expanding the nature of the bill?

8:55 p.m.

Assistant Secretary, Machinery of Government, Privy Council Office

Allen Sutherland

No, it's not expanding the nature of the bill.

8:55 p.m.

Conservative

Dan Albas Conservative Central Okanagan—Similkameen—Nicola, BC

Is this clarifying what was in it already or limiting it?

8:55 p.m.

Assistant Secretary, Machinery of Government, Privy Council Office

Allen Sutherland

It's clarifying.

8:55 p.m.

Conservative

Dan Albas Conservative Central Okanagan—Similkameen—Nicola, BC

Clarifying is usually a word we use when someone misspeaks or whatnot. They clarify it.

I just want to know what the original provision was. I'll look it up and maybe you could go through it then.

8:55 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Wayne Easter

If this isn't amended, what are the consequences?

8:55 p.m.

Assistant Secretary, Machinery of Government, Privy Council Office

Allen Sutherland

The reference is incorrect.

8:55 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Wayne Easter

Mr. Fergus.

May 29th, 2017 / 8:55 p.m.

Liberal

Greg Fergus Liberal Hull—Aylmer, QC

First of all, I would like to apologize to members for not giving a clear answer to this. To be precise, Mr. Albas, subsection 79.3(1) of the Parliament of Canada Act currently applies, and it makes reference to what the PBO.... This language helps ensure that the PBO has access to information that meets the conditions set out in this subsection and does not fall under the specific exceptions set out in the Parliament of Canada Act.

What we're doing is just renumbering to make sure it corresponds properly. We're discussing this because it makes reference to the PBO and to the RCMP, and we're just making sure the two acts correspond.

8:55 p.m.

Conservative

Dan Albas Conservative Central Okanagan—Similkameen—Nicola, BC

Thank you for the clarification.

8:55 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Wayne Easter

Okay, the linkage is there.

Is there any further discussion on this point?

(Amendment agreed to [See Minutes of Proceedings])

LIB-12 is carried, creating new clause 173.1.

Let's see if we can finish this section. There are no amendments to clauses 174 to 191. Can we group them?

(Clauses 174 to 191 agreed to on division)

8:55 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Wayne Easter

That completes that division. We will start tomorrow at 8:45 a.m., in this room, on division 8.

I have one last comment. We should thank one family for their endurance tonight. This is Suzie's anniversary, and this is not quite a candlelit dinner at this meeting tonight, so, Suzie, we thank your family. I didn't know. We should have brought a bottle of wine.

The meeting is adjourned.