Okay, we'll have to end it there, James. I'm going to hold us to four minutes on this round, because we have to start the next round shortly.
Mr. Wood, with regard to the BDC, we have the BDC before the committee next week. You said that the BDC is lending money with personal guarantees. Was that before the liquidity was provided to the BDC, or is it happening now as well with the liquidity provided by the federal government?