Okay.
The cabinet ministers we had on earlier today claimed that when they were deciding this during cabinet committee, for example, they weren't made aware of the fact that it was going to be WE Charity Foundation. They weren't aware of the problems with WE's financial statements and breaches of bank covenants and those kinds of things. What is missing in this process where the public service either knew or didn't know, but if they knew, they didn't bring these huge red flags to the attention of the decision-makers?