Evidence of meeting #51 for Finance in the 43rd Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was youth.

A video is available from Parliament.

On the agenda

MPs speaking

Also speaking

Dalal Al-Waheidi  Executive Director, WE Charity
Scott Baker  Chief Operations Officer, WE Charity
Sofia Marquez  Former Staff Member, Government and Stakeholder Relations, WE Charity, As an Individual
John-Frederick Cameron  Chief Executive Officer, Katimavik

3 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Wayne Easter

I call the meeting to order. Welcome to meeting number 51, panel one of the House of Commons Standing Committee on Finance. We are meeting on government spending, WE Charity and the Canada student service grant. Today's meeting is taking place by video conference, and the proceedings will be made available on the House of Commons website.

Mr. Poilievre, I believe you have a point of order.

3 p.m.

Conservative

Pierre Poilievre Conservative Carleton, ON

Yes, one hour will be insufficient time for the witnesses. I don't want to waste any of that hour debating the amount of time. This is just to give you notice that Conservatives will be moving to invite these witnesses back for an additional three hours after this hearing is over, unless, of course, this meeting can be extended.

3 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Wayne Easter

We'll say it's a point of information. I knew there would be a bit of controversy around the one hour, because we had talked about it previously.

We did initially invite the witnesses for one hour. They agreed to come as of Tuesday. A schedule of the committee went out, I believe it was last Friday, which indicated there would be one hour with these witnesses.

The clerk did talk to them this morning to see if it was possible for two hours, but they had one hour available, so we will stick with that. Maybe we'll get all the answers in half an hour, you never know. People in the private sector have businesses to run, so their time is very valuable as well.

With that, we will start with the witnesses. I want to welcome the witnesses, and thank them for coming. We have, from WE Charity, Mrs. Al-Waheidi, executive director; and Mr. Baker, chief operations officer. As an individual, we have Ms. Marquez, former staff member, government and stakeholder relations, WE Charity.

Mrs. Al-Waheidi, the floor is yours.

3 p.m.

Dalal Al-Waheidi Executive Director, WE Charity

Thank you, Mr. Chair. Thank you to the committee.

Good afternoon. My name is Dalal Al-Waheidi, and I serve as the executive director for WE Charity.

I've spent 18 years in various roles at WE Charity, and I work alongside an exceptional team. I'm proud of the impact we make in helping young people at home by engaging them in service, and around the world helping children and families lift themselves out of extreme poverty. Our work is so important to me.

I'm a Palestinian Canadian and a refugee by birth. Growing up, I was affected by war twice: First, my family was in Kuwait during the 1990 Gulf War, and second, while living in the Gaza Strip. As a child and a teenager, I experienced first-hand the terrible impact of war, political instability, violence and systematic racism of young children because of identity, nationality and religion. However, I held on to a faint hope that my education would unlock doors for my future.

These experiences of political and cultural divisiveness have come to define my life and my professional career at WE Charity, from advocating for young people, advancing education, working on diversity and inclusion, and championing the rights of girls and women.

In 1998, I arrived in Canada on my own to study international development, on a full scholarship, at Trent University. After graduation, I was proud to join a Canadian-founded not-for-profit, then called Free the Children and now known as WE Charity.

I have been lucky to build an entrepreneurial career with WE Charity, progressing from a youth coordinator to a program builder, overseeing our international development programs, leading WE Day, and now as its executive director. My story is only one of the many stories of people who have helped build this organization with staff and volunteers, many of whom have worked for 25 years to build WE Charity into what it is today.

I was directly involved in shaping and growing it, alongside passionate and dedicated team members for WE Days across Canada. It was our dream to make it cool for kids to care and to contribute. WE Day is a celebration of their service to their communities. Imagine the young person who volunteers for the first time in life, who cares about poverty or homelessness or racial injustice, who takes a stand on an issue, raises their voice for our cause or organizes a campaign, and then gets to celebrate with other youth who want to change the world too.

Through WE Day, more than one million Canadians have been inspired to give back and volunteer for the first time. We have worked with 7,000 schools. Students have volunteered 70 million hours for more than 3,000 causes, creating compassionate people who know they can make a difference. Studies have shown that our alumni are more likely to join, volunteer and look for careers in the social sector.

In addition to our local work, we also do international development, which makes us different. Through our development projects, we have built 1,500 schools and classrooms where more than 200,000 children have been educated and 30,000 women have been supported by our alternative income projects. I have had the honour to meet hundreds and hundreds of children in developing countries who attend schools built by WE Charity, many of whom are girls.

WE Charity is different from most groups, and that can be a source of confusion. As we grew beyond the small charity, it required a better model to sustain itself and its good work. ME to WE social enterprise creates jobs overseas, especially for women entrepreneurs, and it chose volunteers and donors at all of our global development sites so that they can transparently see the impact of our development projects.

Since the ME to WE social enterprise was founded in 2008, 100% of its profit—every penny—has been annually donated to WE Charity or reinvested to grow the social mission. At a time when charitable donations in Canada are at a 30-year low, the support of the social enterprise means that we do not have to plead for money from an ever-dwindling group of donors.

WE Charity is not perfect, especially when pulling apart every choice over the past 25 years, but I hope Canadians are willing to give us a second look. Under additional lights, outside of the political controversy we find ourselves in, our programs should be seen as innovative and entrepreneurial and delivering meaningful impact, benefiting children across Canada and around the world.

One of the greatest privileges of my life has been helping to bring service opportunities to young people. It was with great optimism that I worked alongside a talented team to make the Canada service grant a reality. A lot has been lost with its cancellation. This summer tens of thousands of students, over 65% from the visible minority population, lost their service opportunities. I could never have imagined that the combination of COVID-19 and the political fallout of agreeing to partner on the CSSG could be so devastating for WE Charity, our staff and the communities we serve.

A lot has happened. This week we had to release staff in Canada and say good-bye to talented and passionate members who came to WE because of their commitment to service. This is incredibly difficult and emotional. We have proactively suspended many of our philanthropic partnerships and school board partnerships in Canada. The organization is examining every aspect of what it does, including streamlining its organizational structure, conducting a governance review, simplifying its brand and closing certain programs.

It is easy to tear things down, but I can tell you from personal experience that it's not easy to build. Twenty-five years were invested by thousands of current and former staff, board members, teachers, schools, donors, students and advisers to create a unique platform for youth engagement and international development. I want to take a moment to share my gratitude and thanks for each one of them for believing in our mission. Regardless of the firestorm we are facing, nothing can erase the pride I feel for the impact of WE Charity and the dedication of our team. I know what has been achieved. I've seen it. I've seen its magical impact. It is worth saving.

As a child who fled war twice, Canada has given me everything. I've tried and worked very hard to give something back. I hope my two daughters, Zeina and Leila, first-generation Canadians, will one day participate in service programs, give back to this country and be celebrated for their service. I want to do my part to always ensure that Canada continues to be a good country with good people who have good hearts.

Thank you. Meegwetch. Merci. Shukran.

3:10 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Wayne Easter

Thank you.

Ms. Marquez and Mr. Baker, I don't believe you have opening statements. Is that right? Okay. You're here as a group.

The first round will be a six-minute round. We'll start with Mr. Poilievre and then go to Ms. Koutrakis, Mr. Fortin and Mr. Julian.

Mr. Poilievre, the floor is yours.

3:10 p.m.

Conservative

Pierre Poilievre Conservative Carleton, ON

WE Charity Foundation received $30 million from the Government of Canada. Unfortunately, you've only repaid $22 million. Where is the rest?

3:10 p.m.

Scott Baker Chief Operations Officer, WE Charity

Yes, on June 30 we did receive $30 million. We have returned $22 million of those funds. We are in the process of working with the government—

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Conservative

Pierre Poilievre Conservative Carleton, ON

Sorry, the question was where is the rest? Where is it? In what account is it being held?

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Liberal

The Chair Liberal Wayne Easter

Mr. Poilievre, these are witnesses from the community. Let's give them a little time, even if we go a little over.

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Chief Operations Officer, WE Charity

Scott Baker

We're in the process right now of working as quickly as we can with the government to return it. They're driving the process.

The funds are currently in bank accounts, not earning any interest and not accessed in any way.

3:10 p.m.

Conservative

Pierre Poilievre Conservative Carleton, ON

Was the money originally transferred to WE Charity or the WE Charity Foundation?

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Chief Operations Officer, WE Charity

Scott Baker

The agreement was with the WE Charity Foundation. As a result, the transfer was to the WE Charity Foundation.

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Conservative

Pierre Poilievre Conservative Carleton, ON

Did it remain there or did any of it get transferred over to WE Charity?

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Chief Operations Officer, WE Charity

Scott Baker

Since receiving the money on June 30, it has not been touched.

3:10 p.m.

Conservative

Pierre Poilievre Conservative Carleton, ON

Thank you.

My next question is for you, Ms. Marquez. You do government relations work for WE. Since March 1 have you been in contact with anyone in the Prime Minister's Office?

3:10 p.m.

Sofia Marquez Former Staff Member, Government and Stakeholder Relations, WE Charity, As an Individual

No, I have not.

3:10 p.m.

Conservative

Pierre Poilievre Conservative Carleton, ON

Anyone in the office of Minister Morneau?

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Former Staff Member, Government and Stakeholder Relations, WE Charity, As an Individual

Sofia Marquez

Would you repeat the date?

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Conservative

Pierre Poilievre Conservative Carleton, ON

The date is March 1.

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Former Staff Member, Government and Stakeholder Relations, WE Charity, As an Individual

Sofia Marquez

Yes, I have.

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Conservative

Pierre Poilievre Conservative Carleton, ON

Who?

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Former Staff Member, Government and Stakeholder Relations, WE Charity, As an Individual

Sofia Marquez

I have been in contact with staffers at Minister Morneau's office.

3:10 p.m.

Conservative

Pierre Poilievre Conservative Carleton, ON

What are the names?

3:10 p.m.

Former Staff Member, Government and Stakeholder Relations, WE Charity, As an Individual

Sofia Marquez

They are Amit Singh, a political staffer, as well as...she's been a witness, Michelle Kovacevic. I think that's her last name.

3:10 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Wayne Easter

Yes, she's with the public service.