Evidence of meeting #52 for Foreign Affairs and International Development in the 41st Parliament, 2nd Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was children.

A recording is available from Parliament.

On the agenda

MPs speaking

Also speaking

Janine Maxwell  Co-Founder, Heart for Africa
Ian Maxwell  Co-Founder, Heart for Africa
Tim Lambert  Chief Executive Officer, Egg Farmers of Canada

11:50 a.m.

Co-Founder, Heart for Africa

Janine Maxwell

It was high, but now there's this prevention of mother-to-child transmission program. I know that some of your funding goes to that. What it is doing to that country is a miracle. I applaud all the dollars you give to that. I'll give you an example.

I would guess that 60% to 70% of our children are exposed at birth, so that means there's a chance that as they come out of the birth canal they're exposed to it if the mother is positive. We do a rapid test. If we find the baby and we don't know the mother, we do a rapid test immediately, and if the child is positive we start treatment immediately, that day, with nevirapine, which lasts for six weeks.

If we know that the mother is HIV-positive—because they test her right before birth and on her card it says “exposed”—we immediately start the child. On this guess that 60% to 70% of our children are exposed, only 10% of our children are HIV-positive, so it's a miracle drug.

11:50 a.m.

Conservative

Laurie Hawn Conservative Edmonton Centre, AB

That's amazing.

It sounds like the government of Swaziland is making a sincere effort—

11:50 a.m.

Co-Founder, Heart for Africa

Janine Maxwell

Absolutely.

11:50 a.m.

Conservative

Laurie Hawn Conservative Edmonton Centre, AB

—to get their act together.

I don't know much about Swaziland. How stable is the government of Swaziland? Is it going to be there for a while?

11:50 a.m.

Co-Founder, Heart for Africa

Janine Maxwell

It's the last absolute monarchy on the continent, so King Mswati is the absolute ruler. He does have a British parliamentary system, so there's a cabinet that's been appointed and there is a parliament underneath them. It's an African country.

11:50 a.m.

Conservative

Laurie Hawn Conservative Edmonton Centre, AB

So the king is supreme, not parliament.

11:50 a.m.

Co-Founder, Heart for Africa

Janine Maxwell

The king is supreme.

11:50 a.m.

Conservative

Laurie Hawn Conservative Edmonton Centre, AB

How old is the king?

11:50 a.m.

Co-Founder, Heart for Africa

11:50 a.m.

Conservative

Laurie Hawn Conservative Edmonton Centre, AB

So he's outlived most of his countrymen.

11:50 a.m.

Co-Founder, Heart for Africa

Janine Maxwell

He's outlived most of his countrymen, yes.

11:50 a.m.

Conservative

Laurie Hawn Conservative Edmonton Centre, AB

Is there a succession plan of some kind?

11:50 a.m.

Co-Founder, Heart for Africa

Janine Maxwell

It's not known to the public. When his father passed away.... It's not like in England, where we know who's next in line, or we think we know. It's not known to the public, but within the confines of the royal family and the government, they would know.

11:55 a.m.

Conservative

Laurie Hawn Conservative Edmonton Centre, AB

Do you ever get to have contact with him?

11:55 a.m.

Co-Founder, Heart for Africa

Janine Maxwell

We do. He's very accessible. If anyone were to come there from Canada, he would welcome you with open arms. He's a very kind man. We've met with him once at his palace and at the Royal Kraal, as it's called, where his mother lives, the queen mother. We also have regular interaction with members of parliament. They're very, very supportive of us and when they come out to see what we're doing, they are all in tears. There's not a dry eye, because they see that it's a magical place.

March 26th, 2015 / 11:55 a.m.

Conservative

Laurie Hawn Conservative Edmonton Centre, AB

So he's that rare benevolent dictator. The best form of government, in my view, is a benevolent dictatorship, but you have to find that benevolent dictator.

11:55 a.m.

Voices

Oh, oh!

11:55 a.m.

Conservative

Laurie Hawn Conservative Edmonton Centre, AB

He sounds like he might be one of those.

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Conservative

The Chair Conservative Dean Allison

Mr. Hawn, that's all the time we have.

We're going to start the third round.

Mr. Schellenberger, you have five minutes.

11:55 a.m.

Conservative

Gary Schellenberger Conservative Perth—Wellington, ON

Thank you, Chair.

Thank you very much for your testimony here this morning. It's wonderful.

As a faith-based organization, have you experienced any difficulties in providing aid in Africa?

11:55 a.m.

Co-Founder, Heart for Africa

Ian Maxwell

Not in being a faith-based organization, no. There are a lot of challenges providing aid in Africa, but that is not one of them.

11:55 a.m.

Conservative

Gary Schellenberger Conservative Perth—Wellington, ON

That's not one of them.

11:55 a.m.

Co-Founder, Heart for Africa

Janine Maxwell

They're very welcoming to faith-based organizations.

11:55 a.m.

Conservative

Gary Schellenberger Conservative Perth—Wellington, ON

There's one thing I'd like to say. I know that hard-boiled eggs can be kept for an extended period of time, and I know that the Egg Farmers of Canada have hard-boiled eggs in refrigeration. I buy them at different times. There's a dozen in a package, and they'll have a best before date, and for a month or month and a half they'll stay good in the fridge.

In Africa, they don't have the same refrigeration. Is there a way to keep eggs for an extended period of time in that type of heat and weather?

11:55 a.m.

A voice

Pickled.