Evidence of meeting #47 for Government Operations and Estimates in the 41st Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was million.
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5:20 p.m.
NDP
Denis Blanchette NDP Louis-Hébert, QC
I would like to know why all the votes appear at the very end of the agenda. We did not see them before the meeting started.
5:20 p.m.
NDP
The Chair NDP Pat Martin
Actually, it is quite common practice, but I'll allow the clerk to answer your question if you like.
This is the way we've done it at this committee. As a rule, we interview as many people associated with the votes as we can, and then we put the votes to the committee. There are only three choices. You can either adopt, reduce, or negative each vote. You cannot increase the value of the vote.
5:20 p.m.
NDP
The Chair NDP Pat Martin
Anyway, we have the unanimous consent of the committee, I understand, to deal with them in groupings. I think we should proceed right away. You have the votes in front of you.
Shall votes 95, 100, 105, and 110 under Canadian Heritage carry?
CANADIAN HERITAGE
Public Service Commission
Vote 95—Program expenditures..........$79,092,000
Public Service Labour Relations Board
Vote 100—Program expenditures..........$12,421,000
Public Service Staffing Tribunal
Vote 105—Program expenditures..........$4,812,000
Registry of the Public Servants Disclosure Protection Tribunal
Vote 110—Program expenditures..........$1,644,000
(Votes 95, 100, 105, and 110 agreed to on division.)
Shall vote 1 under the Governor General, less the amount voted in interim supply, carry?
GOVERNOR GENERAL
Governor General
Vote 1—Program expenditures..........$17,016,000
(Vote 1 agreed to on division)
Shall vote 1 under Parliament, less the amount voted in interim supply, carry?
PARLIAMENT
The Senate
Vote 1—Program expenditures..........$57,933,000
(Vote 1 agreed to on division)
The next cluster will be under Privy Council.
Shall votes 1, 5, 10, and 25 under Privy Council, less the amount voted in interim supply, carry?
PRIVY COUNCIL
Privy Council
Vote 1—Program expenditures..........$111,793,000
Canadian Intergovernmental Conference Secretariat
Vote 5—Program expenditures..........$6,144,000
Canadian Transportation Accident Investigation and Safety Board
Vote 10—Program expenditures..........$26,479,000
Public Appointments Commission Secretariat
Vote 25—Program expenditures..........$945,000
(Votes 1, 5, 10, and 25 agreed to on division)
Under Public Works and Government Services, shall votes 1, 5, 10, 15, 20, and 25, less the amount voted in interim supply, carry?
PUBLIC WORKS AND GOVERNMENT SERVICES
Public Works and Government Services
Vote 1—Operating expenditures..........$1,959,722,000
Vote 5—Capital expenditures..........$288,879,000
Vote 10—Contributions..........$5,497,000
Old Port of Montreal Corporation Inc.
Vote 15—Payments to the Old Port of Montreal Corporation Inc. for operating and capital expenditures..........$25,173,000
Shared Services Canada
Vote 20—Operating expenditures..........$1,305,070,000
Vote 25—Capital expenditures..........$67,526,000
(Votes 1, 5, 10, 15, 20, and 25 agreed to on division)
Under Treasury Board, shall votes 1, 5, 10, 20, 25, 30, 33, 40, and 50, less the amount voted in interim supply, carry?
TREASURY BOARD
Treasury Board Secretariat
Vote 1—Program expenditures..........$224,183,000
Vote 5—Government Contingencies..........$750,000,000
Vote 10—Government-Wide Initiatives..........$3,193,000
Vote 20—Public Service Insurance..........$2,277,220,000
Vote 25—Operating Budget Carry Forward..........$1,200,000,000
Vote 30—Paylist Requirements..........$600,000,000
Vote 33—Capital Budget Carry Forward..........$600,000,000
Canada School of Public Service
Vote 40—Program expenditures..........$44,650,000
Public Sector Integrity Commission
Vote 50—Program expenditures..........$5,133,000
(Votes 1, 5, 10, 20, 25, 30, 33, 40, and 50 agreed to on division)
Finally, shall the chair report the main estimates 2012-13, less the amount voted in interim supply, to the House?
5:20 p.m.
Some hon. members
Agreed.
On division.
5:20 p.m.
NDP
The Chair NDP Pat Martin
That's excellent. Thank you.
We have two items of information, if I can just have everybody's attention.
Linda Duncan would like to serve a notice of motion. Would you like to do that first, Linda?
5:25 p.m.
NDP
Linda Duncan NDP Edmonton Strathcona, AB
Yes, thank you, Mr. Chair.
The notice of motion has been sent to the clerk, and it is in the process of being translated. I understand that everybody, by the end of the day, will receive it.
The matter of supplementary estimates (A) has already been referred to our committee. The motion is simply that we have the Ministers of Public Works and Treasury Board Secretariat appear before us to speak to the supplementary estimates (A).
5:25 p.m.
NDP
The Chair NDP Pat Martin
You have served notice. It's non-debatable. Thank you for that, Linda.
The item of information I have also deals with supplementary estimates (A). We would like to deal with the supplementary estimates (A) on June 6.
Is there agreement on that?
5:25 p.m.
Some hon. members
Agreed.
5:25 p.m.
Conservative
Mike Wallace Conservative Burlington, ON
That's agreed.
Just as clarification, our next two meetings will be to deal with the report on the process and the discussion we've been having. Then next Wednesday we will deal with supplementary estimates (A). Is that correct?
5:25 p.m.
NDP
The Chair NDP Pat Martin
Exactly. The idea is to use May 30, our next meeting, and June 4, the following meeting, to deal with what we have heard and to give direction to the drafters of the report on estimates.
5:25 p.m.
Conservative
Mike Wallace Conservative Burlington, ON
That's good.
I have just one point of clarification on the notice of motion. I know it's not debatable, but we are talking about the motion. We're happy to deal with supplementary estimates (A) next Wednesday. But ministers never come on supplementary estimates. They come only on mains. You can ask the ministers, but that will never happen.
5:25 p.m.
NDP
The Chair NDP Pat Martin
We're only serving notice of motion. It's non-debatable at this time, so we don't really need any clarification.
John, are you—
5:25 p.m.
NDP
Linda Duncan NDP Edmonton Strathcona, AB
I'd like clarification. Is that only this committee? It certainly isn't my experience on my other committees.
5:25 p.m.
Conservative
Mike Wallace Conservative Burlington, ON
I think it is, Linda, if you check your minutes. Check your minutes on supplementary (A)s to see if your ministers have come.
5:25 p.m.
NDP
The Chair NDP Pat Martin
We don't even know if the motion will pass when it's moved, so it's kind of moot.
I want to check with the Liberals.
John, are you okay with dealing with the supplementary estimates (A) on June 6?
5:25 p.m.
NDP
The Chair NDP Pat Martin
We've just explained the procedure. We've decided that May 30 and June 4 are set aside for continuing the analysis of our draft report, etc.
5:25 p.m.
The Clerk of the Committee Mr. Marc-Olivier Girard
The first date for consideration of the draft report would be June 11?
5:25 p.m.
NDP
The Chair NDP Pat Martin
That's right. Ideally, on June 4 we will have finished giving our direction to the analysts. They need one full week to compile that and have it translated, so on June 11 we will probably have the draft report.
If we're serious about expediting this and getting it reported to the House by the summer recess, we're going to have to be really disciplined.
5:25 p.m.
Conservative
Mike Wallace Conservative Burlington, ON
But do you think we can have it by June 11? We've set aside the meeting on June 11 for that, and that would be great.
5:25 p.m.
NDP
The Chair NDP Pat Martin
What the analysts tell me today is that if we're finished giving them directions on June 4, by June 11 they will have circulated a translated draft report. Agreed?
5:25 p.m.
Some hon. members
Agreed.
