It's a great question.
CGSB has a very small participation. There are maybe 25 or 30 committees we actually participate in. We participate in Canada, and very rarely do we actually interface with ISO at the international level. But we feed into that, so that's a part of it.
I would say this. I can't tell you the Canadian perspective on the level of use and the value of ISO standards. That's an incredibly interesting question. I can tell you that the European Union adapts ISO standards for their community standards. That's one awfully big jurisdiction and marketplace. So if you're going to measure the standards in terms of the impact they have on communities and economic areas, I would think that impact would be very significant.
Having said all that, I want to go to the other part of the question. At one point, the Standards Council of Canada, which is really the strategic centre of Canada's international participation in ISO—it manages it and leverages the resources—used to have a committee called CNC/ISO. It was like a policy committee that brought together all the national standards organizations for strategic discussions about how we would participate, what we would work on, and how we would leverage our participation in ISO. Unfortunately that committee ceased to exist about six or seven years ago. One of the comments I would make is that ISO is not going to go away. International business is not going away. The need to have international standards and to leverage those standards is not going away. What is needed is perhaps a greater, more specific focus on improving our strategy to identify those areas where we can participate better in ISO and IEC.