I'll just add a little something regarding ISO. From a sheer volume point of view, I don't know how many thousand documents a year ISO publishes, but they have published something like 25,000 standards and other documents. So it terms of sheer volume and in terms of participation, they have something like 166 member bodies. These are countries. So, yes, it's an important forum to participate in.
You're right. You hear in some sectors that ISO standards are not very well viewed. Particularly when you go into the more high-tech areas, people complain about the process being slow, whereas for the older technologies, ISO is the place to be. It just depends on the sector, and they work in many sectors.
The other important thing is that it's one member per vote. The European Union has over 30 member countries and over 30 votes, so they participate actively in ISO. They also participate in their own regional standards bodies, two of which are called CEN-CENELEC. They take their regional standards and bring them to ISO. So it is very important for Canada as a country to ensure that we influence the European Union member bodies so that the standards incorporate the requirements that are necessary for us to be able to adopt them.