Small business innovation research, maybe. They have several programs in the United States. Even in our world, which is public safety and security, they actually have.... I was just at a two-day thing down here where the Americans were talking about NIST being involved in it, and FirstNet, where they used the auction to raise $7 billion to build a public safety network. AT&T has come along and said they could use its $180-billion infrastructure for this network and get all the states involved. They're just doing more innovative stuff with respect to trying to leverage things. In this country, we could probably leverage the licences, as well, to do more.
On December 7th, 2017. See this statement in context.