Evidence of meeting #123 for Government Operations and Estimates in the 42nd Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was work.

A recording is available from Parliament.

On the agenda

MPs speaking

Also speaking

Rob Wright  Assistant Deputy Minister, Parliamentary Precinct Branch, Department of Public Works and Government Services
Nathalie Laliberté  Director General, Program, Portfolio and Client Relationship Management, Department of Public Works and Government Services
Matthew Sreter  Executive Director, Strategic Policy Development and Integration Directorate, Acquisitions, Department of Public Works and Government Services

11:55 a.m.

Assistant Deputy Minister, Parliamentary Precinct Branch, Department of Public Works and Government Services

Rob Wright

I would say that 100 Wellington is a bit of a special piece and I think we're going to have to work to develop special approaches.

Yes, we'll have set-asides, but really we're looking at a broader array of tools, in that case, and then taking the principles that we will be applying there to apply within the precinct, with a broader approach.

11:55 a.m.

Liberal

Kyle Peterson Liberal Newmarket—Aurora, ON

I applaud you for that effort.

On Centre Block, there's no real time frame set yet, as I know, but the costing's been done. Obviously, the time of a project has a direct correlation to the cost, so how can the costing be almost precise, but the time not yet precise? Have you accounted for any—

11:55 a.m.

Assistant Deputy Minister, Parliamentary Precinct Branch, Department of Public Works and Government Services

Rob Wright

I would say the costing is not yet precise.

This is from lessons learned from all of the projects that we've done here. Once we have the Centre Block emptied, the key thing is to start pulling it apart, by opening up the walls, the ceilings, the floors and really getting in there and having a really good look at what is behind there. We have a good understanding of the facility, but we need to have a really good understanding.

That and detailing the functional requirements will inform a final scope, and then a final cost, and a schedule. We anticipate having that baseline scope, budget, and schedule in 2019-20. Of course, we'll be doing work in parallel, so we have initial funding to move us along and then we will be locking that down over the next couple of years.

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Liberal

Kyle Peterson Liberal Newmarket—Aurora, ON

Thank you for that.

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Liberal

Yasmin Ratansi Liberal Don Valley East, ON

It is your turn, Mr. McCauley.

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Conservative

Kelly McCauley Conservative Edmonton West, AB

We talked about the exclusion zone and how you changed it.

What other projects that are coming up might this have affected? Are the previous ones locked in already? Will the changes cover a good percentage of the new work being done?

11:55 a.m.

Assistant Deputy Minister, Parliamentary Precinct Branch, Department of Public Works and Government Services

Rob Wright

Just to put that in a frame, this was a particular type of contract. This only exists there. Project management supports—

11:55 a.m.

Conservative

Kelly McCauley Conservative Edmonton West, AB

Only exists where?

11:55 a.m.

Assistant Deputy Minister, Parliamentary Precinct Branch, Department of Public Works and Government Services

Rob Wright

In the project management support service contracts.

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Conservative

Kelly McCauley Conservative Edmonton West, AB

Okay.

11:55 a.m.

Assistant Deputy Minister, Parliamentary Precinct Branch, Department of Public Works and Government Services

Rob Wright

They represent about 4% of our overall contracts.

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Conservative

Kelly McCauley Conservative Edmonton West, AB

It's very small, and going forward it would be a very—

11:55 a.m.

Assistant Deputy Minister, Parliamentary Precinct Branch, Department of Public Works and Government Services

Rob Wright

It's quite small, and not there going forward. We have 10 of those contracts in place, and that was in existence in two of those 10 contracts. On a go-forward basis, we will not be using it.

11:55 a.m.

Conservative

Kelly McCauley Conservative Edmonton West, AB

That's perfect. That's what I was looking for. Thanks very much.

11:55 a.m.

Liberal

The Vice-Chair Liberal Yasmin Ratansi

Thank you to the witnesses.

The meeting is adjourned.