Evidence of meeting #38 for Government Operations and Estimates in the 43rd Parliament, 2nd Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was question.

A recording is available from Parliament.

On the agenda

MPs speaking

Also speaking

Clerk of the Committee  Mr. Paul Cardegna
Jean-Yves Duclos  President of the Treasury Board
Roger Ermuth  Assistant Comptroller General, Financial Management Sector, Office of the Comptroller General, Treasury Board Secretariat
Glenn Purves  Assistant Secretary, Expenditure Management Sector, Treasury Board Secretariat
Karen Cahill  Assistant Secretary and Chief Financial Officer, Treasury Board Secretariat
Rod Greenough  Executive Director, Expenditure Strategies and Estimates, Treasury Board Secretariat
Tolga Yalkin  Assistant Deputy Minister, Workplace Policies and Services, Treasury Board Secretariat

6:05 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Robert Gordon Kitchen

No, the motion can be entered at any time by anybody. The motion was about coming back to debating Mr. Paul-Hus' motion. That was what it was about, and the vote was to not reintroduce it at that point in time—

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NDP

Matthew Green NDP Hamilton Centre, ON

All right. Thank you.

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Conservative

The Chair Conservative Robert Gordon Kitchen

—so another vote could be done.

Ms. Harder, you have four minutes and you have the floor.

6:05 p.m.

Conservative

Rachael Thomas Conservative Lethbridge, AB

Thank you, Mr. Kitchen.

Mr. Kitchen, I appreciate the clarifying point that Mr. Green just made. I would wish, then, to bring forward the motion that Mr. Pierre Paul-Hus brought forward earlier.

6:05 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Robert Gordon Kitchen

Thank you, Ms. Harder.

We will call for a vote on the motion that is being brought back to the table.

Go ahead, Mr. Clerk.

6:05 p.m.

The Clerk

Thank you, Mr. Chair.

The question is on the motion by Ms. Harder to resume consideration of the motion in the name of Mr. Paul-Hus moved on June 7.

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Liberal

Steven MacKinnon Liberal Gatineau, QC

I have a point of order, Mr. Chair. I believe a review of the rules would reveal you cannot move the same dilatory motion twice in a meeting.

6:05 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Robert Gordon Kitchen

Thank you, Mr. MacKinnon.

Ms. Chabot, your hand is up.

6:05 p.m.

Bloc

Louise Chabot Bloc Thérèse-De Blainville, QC

Thank you, Mr. Chair.

Beyond the matter of whether or not we can retake the vote, my concern is that our time for debate would all be used up, because the meeting needs to end in a few minutes. I have to leave at the end of the meeting, as planned, because of work in the House. I therefore request that the meeting be adjourned. That will not prevent us for voting again, if required, but I just want to say that we cannot debate it.

6:05 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Robert Gordon Kitchen

Ms. Chabot, we cannot adjourn on a point of order. I'm not aware of any impediment for the motion being moved again, however.

6:05 p.m.

Liberal

Francis Drouin Liberal Glengarry—Prescott—Russell, ON

On a point of order, Mr. Chair, I would ask you to revisit the rules and consult the clerk. You cannot move the same dilatory motion twice during a meeting. You cannot ask the committee to adjourn twice during a meeting. It's the same type of motion that was introduced by Mr. Pierre Paul-Hus.

6:05 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Robert Gordon Kitchen

Thank you, Mr. Drouin.

We'll suspend for a second.

6:10 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Robert Gordon Kitchen

Thank you, everybody. I call the meeting back to order. I appreciate that.

We've had some discussions, and there's sort of a right and wrong answer on where we're at. That said, I think at this point in time, because of the lateness, I'm going to rule in this case that the motion can't be re-entered today, but we'll get further clarification on that.

Ms. Harder, you have the floor.

6:10 p.m.

Conservative

Rachael Thomas Conservative Lethbridge, AB

Mr. Chair, thank you for consulting with regard to that matter.

I move that we adjourn.

6:10 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Robert Gordon Kitchen

Thank you, Ms. Harder.

We have a motion to adjourn.

6:10 p.m.

NDP

Matthew Green NDP Hamilton Centre, ON

Wait a minute. On a point of order, is that dilatory?

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Voices

Oh, oh!

6:10 p.m.

NDP

Matthew Green NDP Hamilton Centre, ON

Never mind, never mind....

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Conservative

Rachael Thomas Conservative Lethbridge, AB

Thank you, Mr. Green.

6:10 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Robert Gordon Kitchen

Thank you.

With that, I'd like to thank the witnesses for being with us today. I appreciate it.

That said, I'm not seeing any discontent, so the meeting is adjourned.