Well, I think joint ventures do have a place, and they are required, because if the smaller indigenous business.... A lot of it could also even be with the insurance requirements, with the bid bonding, in that the indigenous businesses don't have the capacity to do that. The non-indigenous businesses, the joint ventures, are there to help the indigenous businesses grow.
There should be a shelf life for a joint venture. I mean, there have been times where a joint venture has been going on for 20 years. If it's a true joint venture, that non-indigenous partner should have helped that indigenous partner to become their own prime contractor themselves.
Joint ventures are important, but they have to be looked at, and it has to be ensured that the benefit is going out, that there is growth for the indigenous business. It can't be something that's always going to be able to bid on these contracts and be getting contracts for 20 years because of a JV but with no growth for the indigenous partner.