Evidence of meeting #70 for Health in the 42nd Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was amendments.

A recording is available from Parliament.

On the agenda

MPs speaking

Also speaking

Clerk of the Committee  Mr. David Gagnon
Karin Phillips  Committee Researcher

3:45 p.m.

Liberal

John Oliver Liberal Oakville, ON

I think we're looking at all-day meetings until we are sure and confident that we will be able to finish the clause-by-clause. We'd be moving into eight-hour meetings.

3:45 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Bill Casey

Okay, except for Monday. Monday would be just after question period.

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Liberal

John Oliver Liberal Oakville, ON

We would start our clause-by-clause at 3:30 on Monday afternoon.

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Liberal

The Chair Liberal Bill Casey

All right.

Mr. Davies, did you want to comment on that amendment to the amendment to the amendment?

3:45 p.m.

NDP

Don Davies NDP Vancouver Kingsway, BC

I think that's a nice compromise. I guess we'd go 3:30 to 5:30 on Monday, or something like that, and then—

3:45 p.m.

Liberal

John Oliver Liberal Oakville, ON

I think the reception.... Sorry.

3:45 p.m.

NDP

Don Davies NDP Vancouver Kingsway, BC

I was just going to say I've done a number of these. If you have all day Tuesday, all day Wednesday, and all day Thursday, you will have lots of time. That's 24 hours. I'll predict now that we'll be finished this bill in half that time.

3:45 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Bill Casey

I've never done this before. Will we be sitting through question period? Will we miss question period?

3:45 p.m.

Conservative

Marilyn Gladu Conservative Sarnia—Lambton, ON

No.

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Liberal

The Chair Liberal Bill Casey

You could miss it....

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Conservative

Marilyn Gladu Conservative Sarnia—Lambton, ON

I would love to.

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Some hon. members

Oh, oh!

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Liberal

The Chair Liberal Bill Casey

This will be all day, except we'll attend question period.

3:45 p.m.

NDP

Don Davies NDP Vancouver Kingsway, BC

When you say all day, I'm imagining it to mean the way we sat to hear the witnesses, so 8:30 to 6:00. Is that what you mean by “all day”?

3:45 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Bill Casey

Yes. That should give us lots of time. It's a good idea for your motion to include no meetings next week, because that gives us time to prepare for all these things, amendments and clause-by-clause.

Mr. Oliver.

3:45 p.m.

Liberal

John Oliver Liberal Oakville, ON

I think 3:30 to 5:30 is a reasonable start. It will give us a good sense of how we're doing. Let's set up for 9:00 to 6:00 for the next days. If we're moving expeditiously through it, then maybe we can look at shortening that, but we should make sure that as a committee we have time to do the clause-by-clause.

3:45 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Bill Casey

All right. We seem to have a little bit of a consensus here.

The clerk was just asking about the amendments deadline for September 28, just to make sure everybody understands the date.

Mr. Davies.

3:45 p.m.

NDP

Don Davies NDP Vancouver Kingsway, BC

Just to make completely sure this door is closed, we're talking about the clause-by-clause the week of October 2. The following week is a break week. The week after that, we return. Is there any possibility on the government side to move the clause-by-clause to that week, on exactly the same basis as we have here?

This would be for a couple of reasons. It allows me to be here. It allows Marilyn to be here. It gives us a bit of breathing room on the amendments. It doesn't really hold back the government's legislative agenda very much, because you lose the week after as a break week anyway. Really, it just puts it back one parliamentary week.

I'm just wondering, John, if there's any appetite. That would be perfect, from my point of view, and I'll stop saying you're rushing the bill, too, if you do that.

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Some hon. members

Oh, oh!

3:45 p.m.

Liberal

Ramez Ayoub Liberal Thérèse-De Blainville, QC

I'm not so sure about that.

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Liberal

John Oliver Liberal Oakville, ON

The date that's in the motion is the date that needs to stand.

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Liberal

The Chair Liberal Bill Casey

All right.

Is there any further debate?

3:45 p.m.

Liberal

John Oliver Liberal Oakville, ON

The motion, then, will be that the Committee proceed with clause-by-clause consideration “no later than 3:30 on October 2, 2017”. Do we need to spell out in the motion the agreement that we're ending at 5:30 that day and then doing eight-hour days after that? Is that clear enough from the discussion here?

3:45 p.m.

A voice

I think it's clear, yes.

3:45 p.m.

Liberal

John Oliver Liberal Oakville, ON

Are we going to leave the amendments in at the same time? The clerk is indicating some concern about circulation of material if we do it at noon on September 29. We have a bit more time on the Monday to get it out, but then we wouldn't have time to process it and look at it. He wants to—