Hear, hear!
Evidence of meeting #50 for Procedure and House Affairs in the 40th Parliament, 3rd Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was chair.
A recording is available from Parliament.
Evidence of meeting #50 for Procedure and House Affairs in the 40th Parliament, 3rd Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was chair.
A recording is available from Parliament.
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An hon. member
Hear, hear!
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Conservative
Tom Lukiwski Conservative Regina—Lumsden—Lake Centre, SK
Let's read what this says, for goodness' sake: “That the draft report contain the conclusions of this committee”. We haven't even reached any conclusions yet.
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Conservative
Tom Lukiwski Conservative Regina—Lumsden—Lake Centre, SK
Yes, of course you have. I'm glad, Marcel, that you've admitted that you want to see--
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Conservative
The Chair Conservative Joe Preston
Gentlemen, ladies, members of the committee, please comment through me so that you won't yell at each other. That will help a lot.
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Conservative
Tom Lukiwski Conservative Regina—Lumsden—Lake Centre, SK
Thank you, Chair.
Through you, Mr. Chair, I'm glad to see that Mr. Proulx has admitted that they wanted to come to this conclusion without any testimony, without any committee hearings. I suppose, Mr. Chair--
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Liberal
Marcel Proulx Liberal Hull—Aylmer, QC
Mr. Chair, I appreciate your help, but maybe you should get Mr. Lukiwski back in order--
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Liberal
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Conservative
The Chair Conservative Joe Preston
You, I also see, have the ability to be on my speaker's list, and we'll let you--
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Conservative
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Conservative
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Conservative
Scott Reid Conservative Lanark—Frontenac—Lennox and Addington, ON
I may actually have misheard, but it sounded to me as though the member just used an unparliamentary word. I'm sure that if that's the case, he'd want to withdraw it and submit some other word that says the same thing, even in a derogatory manner, so that he doesn't use the unparliamentary word.
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Conservative
The Chair Conservative Joe Preston
Monsieur Proulx, do you have a comment? Nothing.
Continue, Mr. Lukiwski, please.
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Conservative
Tom Lukiwski Conservative Regina—Lumsden—Lake Centre, SK
It's unfortunate, since everyone did hear him say “lie”, which is unparliamentary, but since he doesn't want to apologize, perhaps that says something about.... I won't even go there.
This motion, Mr. Chairman, not only says that it wants the draft report to contain conclusions--the conclusions of the opposition coalition--but also states that no summary of evidence should be included in the draft report. I appreciate the fact that members of the Bloc Québécois say that perhaps they'd want to amend that, but why in the world would they allow this motion to come forward to begin with?
I point out the obvious, once again. Had the analysts been able to do their work, which is the norm in Parliament, and present a draft report to this committee based on testimony heard, recommendations and conclusions could be made and could be amended by the committee, but it seems the opposition coalition want to circumvent that process and do not want to abide by parliamentary procedure. They merely want to try to make some partisan political points, some cheap political points, as they try, Mr. Chairman--
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Conservative
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Liberal
David McGuinty Liberal Ottawa South, ON
Thank you, sir.
I just wanted to inquire about something from you, Mr. Chair, on a point of order. We've been led to understand that the Parliamentary Budget Officer's report has been submitted to this committee for our consideration, and that it's in our possession here. Can we facilitate its distribution today?
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Conservative
The Chair Conservative Joe Preston
I think that.... We'll deal with the one issue first. We have a motion before us. Let's--
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Conservative
The Chair Conservative Joe Preston
I have it delivered. I haven't seen it, so I don't know if it's translated or what we have. Let's wait and finish where we are.
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Liberal
David McGuinty Liberal Ottawa South, ON
Thank you, Chair. I just wanted to inquire. Time is of the essence, so I just wanted to double-check.