Evidence of meeting #35 for Procedure and House Affairs in the 41st Parliament, 2nd Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site.) The winning word was advertising.

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Marc Chénier  Senior Officer and Counsel, Privy Council Office
Natasha Kim  Director, Democratic Reform, Privy Council Office

7:05 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Joe Preston

Let's do that.

(Amendment negatived: nays 5; yeas 4 [See Minutes of Proceedings])

As we know, a number of them were attached to it, or similar, or parts of the same conversation, so they all have now been defeated.

7:05 p.m.

NDP

Craig Scott NDP Toronto—Danforth, ON

Mr. Chair, just in formal terms, does that mean we've dealt with NDP-2 on the same basis? It's about nomination campaign expenses.

7:05 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Joe Preston

I have all of these in the same group: LIB-1, PV-1, NDP-2, LIB-2, and PV-2.

I'll check to see if that's correct.

Although it is in a different spot, it is different. We'll go to PV-1. PV-1, although it is written...it's amending something different than what we just changed.

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Green

Elizabeth May Green Saanich—Gulf Islands, BC

Exactly.

7:05 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Joe Preston

Right. So maybe I just gave the explanation, but again, congratulations on your private member's bill tonight.

7:05 p.m.

Green

Elizabeth May Green Saanich—Gulf Islands, BC

Thank you, Mr. Chair. Thank you to all members around the table for support. I appreciate it enormously.

To go back to PV-1, it's different wording, as you say, but substantially the same as the NDP-1 amendment in terms of accepting the advice from the Chief Electoral Officer and expanding leadership contest expenses to include non-monetary contributions and provisions of good or services.

I imagine it will meet with the same fate as NDP-1, but I appreciate the chance to present it.

7:10 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Joe Preston

Thank you.

Is there any discussion on PV-1?

(Amendment negatived [See Minutes of Proceedings])

We'll now move to NDP-2.

7:10 p.m.

An hon. member

Are they not applied?

7:10 p.m.

An hon. member

They're not applied.

7:10 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Joe Preston

One amendment changes lines 31 to 33 and the other changes lines 43 to 45.

Mr. Scott.

7:10 p.m.

NDP

Craig Scott NDP Toronto—Danforth, ON

I'd like to move this. I won't spend any time on it, because it's preordained what the vote will be. I regret having spent time finding this, because it doesn't seem to have had any impact on my colleagues across the way, or at least the framework within which they're working.

I think everybody should know that as a result of the vote on NDP-1, and now with what will happen on NDP-2, non-monetary contributions are not included in expenses in these two contexts. That's a fairly major addition to what one can spend in nomination and leadership campaigns.

I won't say anything more.

7:10 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Joe Preston

Okay, I'll call the question on it, then.

(Amendment negatived [See Minutes of Proceedings])

That's defeated, so did that also defeat LIB-2 and PV-2?

7:10 p.m.

A voice

No...[Inaudible—Editor]

7:10 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Joe Preston

Okay. We can go to PV-2. It's the same line but has different wording.

7:10 p.m.

Green

Elizabeth May Green Saanich—Gulf Islands, BC

Mr. Chair, yes, it is different language, but it is to the same effect. This time it is taken outside of the leadership contest situation into a nomination contestant situation again to expand and to ensure that we are controlling non-monetary contributions and provisions of goods and services.

Just to refresh the memory of committee members, this was contained as a specific recommendation in Elections Canada's proposed amendments presented as of April 8, 2014.

I would hope but at this point would not have great hopes that this could meet with approval in order to ensure that we are fully assessing the scope of spending to include those contributions which are other than cash, but which are normally regulated by Elections Canada, as Craig Scott has pointed out.

7:10 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Joe Preston

Mr. Scott.

7:10 p.m.

NDP

Craig Scott NDP Toronto—Danforth, ON

I'll just point out to my colleague from Saanich—Gulf Islands, don't hold your breath, because NDP-2 really was this too.

7:10 p.m.

Green

Elizabeth May Green Saanich—Gulf Islands, BC

It was, but this one is differently worded.

7:10 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Joe Preston

We'll vote on PV-2 with its fancy new wording.

7:10 p.m.

An hon. member

A recorded vote, Mr. Chair.

7:10 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Joe Preston

We'll have a recorded vote on PV-2.

(Amendment negatived: nays 5; yeas 4 [See Minutes of Proceedings])

It is defeated. That brings us back to the present day. We're on PV-13.

7:10 p.m.

A voice

We have to deal with clause 2.

7:10 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Joe Preston

I'm sorry. We have to do clause 2, which all that was part of.

Shall clause 2 carry?

7:10 p.m.

An hon. member

A recorded vote, Mr. Chair.

7:10 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Joe Preston

Certainly.

(Clause 2 agreed to: yeas 5; nays 4 [See Minutes of Proceedings])

(On clause 5)