It's at 65.
I have to bring two pieces of primary identification. Primary means government-issued, by the way. If we go back to that section that was being discussed earlier, proposed subsection 143(2.11), all that's doing is saying you have to bring official government ID as opposed to a union card or an identity card that Ian Lee gives you or something.
I just had two wonderful grandchildren born nine months ago. Did you know that in Ontario within three months, a mother must register a child with OHIP by law? She has to go to them to register a child to get a card to be able to access the system, so duties are imposed. Even though you have a right to health care, you have to go and register a child's birth, if you will, with the health care administrators.
To get OAS or CPP, I have to go to them with primary identification. There are no stories of people being denied health care across this country in large numbers or being denied old age pensions in large numbers or being denied CPP. There's just no evidence. When you look at it, there's no evidence of people being denied fundamental services that require ID. I think it's a giant Venn diagram. All of these identification systems intersect, and at the centre there's zero.