Procedure and House Affairs Committee on May 29th, 2018

[Ruby Sahota, Liberal, Brampton North, ON]

We haven't agreed whether we're going to go on the road, but if we go on the road, what we have just discussed would be the travel plans.

[Blake Richards, Conservative, Banff—Airdrie, AB]

Somehow or other, there has to be agreement of the committee to do that, and it's not happening in the motion right now.

[Ruby Sahota, Liberal, Brampton North, ON]

Okay, if you could, please clarify.

[The Chair, Liberal, Larry Bagnell]

You've asked the clerk. He can go ahead and answer.

[The Clerk]

I think I understand the question, and what I am understanding from Ms. Sahota's presentation is that the travel component—

I don't know whether you have a copy of the motion in front of you.

[Blake Richards, Conservative, Banff—Airdrie, AB]

Yes, I have.

[The Clerk]

What is in number one would be slightly different, based on our conversation, and would now find itself in number six, if I'm understanding correctly.

[Blake Richards, Conservative, Banff—Airdrie, AB]

That's not my understanding. Maybe we need to clarify that, because my understanding is that.... It seems to me that they're pulling this from the motion. They're not amending it or anything.

[The Chair, Liberal, Larry Bagnell]

Andy.

[Andy Fillmore, Liberal, Halifax, NS]

Mr. Chair, last night we reached agreement on the travel, and then today we are looking, as Ms. Sahota has very clearly laid out, to make sure that the travel is not in vain, which it would be if we didn't have the remainder of the elements of the motion in place.

It's a single motion consisting of multiple interdependent parts, and the travel cannot be separated from the remainder of the motion. The travel was agreed to last night, so we've already given the—

[Blake Richards, Conservative, Banff—Airdrie, AB]

No, it wasn't, so—

[Andy Fillmore, Liberal, Halifax, NS]

Well, we haven't agreed to the budget.

[Blake Richards, Conservative, Banff—Airdrie, AB]

—we have to agree to it.

[Andy Fillmore, Liberal, Halifax, NS]

We haven't agreed to the budget; that's true.

[Blake Richards, Conservative, Banff—Airdrie, AB]

You have to agree one way or the other to the travel, and it's not in your motion and it hasn't been agreed otherwise.

[Andy Fillmore, Liberal, Halifax, NS]

It is in the motion. It's very clearly in the motion.

[Blake Richards, Conservative, Banff—Airdrie, AB]

No, it's not. That's the point. It's not in there, so you put the travel in or do it now. You can't have it both ways.

[The Chair, Liberal, Larry Bagnell]

Do you want them to put in the five cities and that kind of stuff?

[Ruby Sahota, Liberal, Brampton North, ON]

Put it in, yes.

[Blake Richards, Conservative, Banff—Airdrie, AB]

Whatever you're doing, put the travel in the motion, if you're going to do it, because everybody else wanted to agree with the travel separately, and the government said no, we can't do that. Now they won't put it in their motion, either. It's as though they don't have a clue what they're doing over there.

[Ruby Sahota, Liberal, Brampton North, ON]

I did put it in. I put it in at the end portion, rather than having it up front like you guys had it yesterday. Forgive me a little bit. I wasn't here yesterday, but I still think it's incorporated within the same ideas—

[Blake Richards, Conservative, Banff—Airdrie, AB]

[Inaudible—Editor] clear what you're doing.

[Ruby Sahota, Liberal, Brampton North, ON]

—and the ideas are within those separate clauses. The travel is a portion of it. We can lay out the cities that we just decided on, and the indigenous community, and we can put that into the motion in number six.

[Blake Richards, Conservative, Banff—Airdrie, AB]

I'm not comfortable discussing motions unless there's an agreement and we know what the actual text of the motion—

[Ruby Sahota, Liberal, Brampton North, ON]

Well, we know where we're headed anyway.

You're not comfortable with giving any reassurance. Would you provide some reassurance that we're going to come back and that we're going to go through the legislation?