Evidence of meeting #107 for Procedure and House Affairs in the 42nd Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was travel.

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MPs speaking

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Clerk of the Committee  Mr. Andrew Lauzon
Jill McKenny  Coordinator, Logistics Services, House of Commons

3:45 p.m.

Coordinator, Logistics Services, House of Commons

3:45 p.m.

Liberal

Ruby Sahota Liberal Brampton North, ON

We are just talking about one hearing in each location. Whichever location we choose, there's a divide of rural and urban that we're probably going to do throughout the week, but in each location, we're just having the one hearing and it's going to be together. We'll have the two hours of witnesses and then open mike right away so that it's efficient on time. That's how I envision it.

3:50 p.m.

Conservative

Blake Richards Conservative Banff—Airdrie, AB

It was very much like what we did with the electoral reform committee, where in each province we had the one stop or whatever. Yes, exactly, that was my understanding.

I'd go back to the original idea of going west to east.

3:50 p.m.

Liberal

Scott Simms Liberal Coast of Bays—Central—Notre Dame, NL

I've been on the list for 10 minutes now. No offence, guys, but—

3:50 p.m.

Conservative

Blake Richards Conservative Banff—Airdrie, AB

Scott, the floor is yours.

3:50 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Larry Bagnell

Go ahead.

May 29th, 2018 / 3:50 p.m.

Liberal

Scott Simms Liberal Coast of Bays—Central—Notre Dame, NL

I don't even know what I wanted to ask you about.

For the Olds situation and the community out west, absolutely it seems to me that Olds is the place to go for our rural setting. I wholeheartedly agree with you. We should go to a setting and not ask people to come in from the outside. Even I suggested that yesterday and realized the folly of my ways by the end of the conversation.

When it comes to the charter flight, just so that I have this straight, would the charter be only for the west? You would do it the whole way through.

3:50 p.m.

Coordinator, Logistics Services, House of Commons

3:50 p.m.

Liberal

Scott Simms Liberal Coast of Bays—Central—Notre Dame, NL

Is the price tag considerably higher then?

3:50 p.m.

Coordinator, Logistics Services, House of Commons

Jill McKenny

Yes, $100,000 higher.

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Liberal

Ruby Sahota Liberal Brampton North, ON

Oh my, that's considerable.

3:50 p.m.

Liberal

Scott Simms Liberal Coast of Bays—Central—Notre Dame, NL

If you look at the western area, we go around the western area and then fly commercial to the east. Even that would not reduce it either. I'm thinking you'd get a smaller charter, if that were the case, or am I making it more complicated?

3:50 p.m.

Coordinator, Logistics Services, House of Commons

Jill McKenny

The distance is the issue, and that's why we need a jet to travel that long distance in that amount of time.

3:50 p.m.

Liberal

Scott Simms Liberal Coast of Bays—Central—Notre Dame, NL

I see.

Then we go toward the east. It would make things more efficient if we'd go to Toronto, Montreal, then Halifax, assuming that commercial activity will be there, such that we can easily get around.

3:50 p.m.

Coordinator, Logistics Services, House of Commons

Jill McKenny

Essentially, with a charter flight you have so much flexibility that the committee can do whatever it pleases.

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Liberal

Scott Simms Liberal Coast of Bays—Central—Notre Dame, NL

Can we do a different charter in the east as opposed to the west? Would that make things cheaper? You would be getting a prop plane now, I would assume.

3:50 p.m.

Coordinator, Logistics Services, House of Commons

Jill McKenny

Your suggestion would be to travel between the east and the west commercially.

3:50 p.m.

Liberal

Scott Simms Liberal Coast of Bays—Central—Notre Dame, NL

Yes.

3:50 p.m.

Coordinator, Logistics Services, House of Commons

Jill McKenny

There would still be the issue for the time. If I'm hearing correctly and the intention is to have shorter public hearings, just a few hours, it may be something we can work around. For example—

3:50 p.m.

Conservative

Blake Richards Conservative Banff—Airdrie, AB

I would like to inject one little thing into this because it fits with what you're saying. What I was hearing before was literally that Alberta to Toronto was the issue. Are there any other issues you wouldn't have without the charter?

3:50 p.m.

Coordinator, Logistics Services, House of Commons

Jill McKenny

I believe that's the only one. However, if the public hearings are only going to be a few hours, that may still work. We may be able to get to Olds on time, able to leave. The afternoon portion would be doable. The evening portion would be difficult in Olds.

3:50 p.m.

Conservative

Blake Richards Conservative Banff—Airdrie, AB

We could either adjust that, or the other option would be to adjust in Toronto and have the meetings, rather than closer to downtown, closer to the airport, so we would save an hour of driving, which would give us some time in the afternoon for a meeting and still an evening in Toronto as well. We could adjust either one of those, whatever is easiest for you.

3:50 p.m.

Liberal

Scott Simms Liberal Coast of Bays—Central—Notre Dame, NL

In addition to that, just a final note on the eastern side of things, Toronto-Montreal, I'd leave it to my colleagues to come up with suggestions there. Halifax, I'm probably speaking for my colleague.

3:50 p.m.

Liberal

Ruby Sahota Liberal Brampton North, ON

What about St. John's?

3:50 p.m.

Liberal

Scott Simms Liberal Coast of Bays—Central—Notre Dame, NL

She wants to go to St. John's, Newfoundland. I would too, but I think that yesterday the consensus was Halifax. If it is, maybe you want to consider a university campus there. We did talk about going to a campus for youth. I know that both St. Mary's and Dalhousie would probably be good places for that.

Are you about to correct me on something?