Evidence of meeting #109 for Procedure and House Affairs in the 42nd Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was election.

A recording is available from Parliament.

On the agenda

MPs speaking

Also speaking

Marc Mayrand  Former Chief Electoral Officer, As an Individual
Michael Pal  Assistant Professor and Director, Public Law Group, Faculty of Law, University of Ottawa, As an Individual
Andrea Furlong  Executive Director, Council of Canadians
James Hicks  National Coordinator, Council of Canadians with Disabilities
Réal Lavergne  President, Fair Vote Canada
Ryan O'Connor  Lawyer and Director, Ontario Proud
Clerk of the Committee  Mr. Andrew Lauzon

11:25 a.m.

Liberal

Scott Simms Liberal Coast of Bays—Central—Notre Dame, NL

People have told me about this before, about how I should just keep going. Okay. All right.

11:25 a.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Larry Bagnell

Mr. Richards.

11:25 a.m.

Conservative

Blake Richards Conservative Banff—Airdrie, AB

Thanks, Mr. Chair.

Let me start with you, Ms. Furlong, in terms of a bit of background about your organization. From where does your organization receive its funding? Do you receive any foreign funding?

11:25 a.m.

Executive Director, Council of Canadians

Andrea Furlong

We are the Council of Canadians, which is the largest citizen-based social justice group in the country. We have individual donors who donate to us.

For our campaign work, we do have an international program on water, which is called the “Blue Planet Project”. We have foundations that donate to that work.

11:25 a.m.

Conservative

Blake Richards Conservative Banff—Airdrie, AB

Do those include foreign foundations, or are they just all Canadian?

11:25 a.m.

Executive Director, Council of Canadians

Andrea Furlong

They could be located internationally, so in the U.S.

11:25 a.m.

Conservative

Blake Richards Conservative Banff—Airdrie, AB

You mentioned that you do some election work. Can you give us a bit of a sense of what type of advocacy work you do during elections?

11:25 a.m.

Executive Director, Council of Canadians

Andrea Furlong

We're a non-partisan organization. In our work we focus on public health care, we focus on the right to water, and we focus on climate justice. With those issues, during the time of an election we look at all the various parties. We look at how they're working on those issues and what their platforms say. Then we collect that information and make it available to people to inform their decision on how to vote.

We don't tell people how to vote. Again, we're non-partisan. As a civil society organization, that's very important to us. We want to inform people on the issues that are very important to us from a social justice perspective and on how the parties are working on those issues.

11:25 a.m.

Conservative

Blake Richards Conservative Banff—Airdrie, AB

So you analyze the issues and determine what political parties align with the thoughts and beliefs of your organization on those. You don't necessarily advocate for who voters should vote for, but you provide information about parties and how they align with those interests. Is that correct?

11:25 a.m.

Executive Director, Council of Canadians

11:25 a.m.

Conservative

Blake Richards Conservative Banff—Airdrie, AB

How is that information provided? Do you advertise that information in some way? Is it simply mailed to your members? How does that information get distributed or shared?

11:25 a.m.

Executive Director, Council of Canadians

Andrea Furlong

We certainly distribute it amongst our members through social media. We have it on our website, our internal email lists, and those sorts of things.

11:30 a.m.

Conservative

Blake Richards Conservative Banff—Airdrie, AB

Okay.

In the last federal election, was your organization registered as a third party?

11:30 a.m.

Executive Director, Council of Canadians

Andrea Furlong

I believe we were. I'm new to the organization—I took on the role as executive director only in February—but that is my understanding.

11:30 a.m.

Conservative

Blake Richards Conservative Banff—Airdrie, AB

In previous elections, would you know whether...?

11:30 a.m.

Executive Director, Council of Canadians

Andrea Furlong

I would assume so, but that would be an assumption on my behalf. I'm not entirely sure.

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Conservative

Blake Richards Conservative Banff—Airdrie, AB

Sure. That's just based on the work that your organization does. Obviously, you would see that as election-related, and that's why you think your group would be registered, as far as you know, as a third party.

11:30 a.m.

Executive Director, Council of Canadians

Andrea Furlong

I would imagine, yes.

11:30 a.m.

Conservative

Blake Richards Conservative Banff—Airdrie, AB

Okay.

You mentioned that you do receive some foreign funding specifically for the more international bit of your work. Do you know what would be done to keep that money separate from money that would be used for that work during elections in Canada?

11:30 a.m.

Executive Director, Council of Canadians

Andrea Furlong

The Blue Planet Project specifically is registered as a separate entity from the Council of Canadians. We are a third party organization to one another. They have their own board of directors. They operate and also have charitable status in the United States.

11:30 a.m.

Conservative

Blake Richards Conservative Banff—Airdrie, AB

Is it a deliberate choice of your organization, then, to try to ensure that when you're advocating in Canadian elections, it's done with money that's provided by Canadians? Or is it something that just happens to have happened?

11:30 a.m.

Executive Director, Council of Canadians

Andrea Furlong

That's currently how it is.

11:30 a.m.

Conservative

Blake Richards Conservative Banff—Airdrie, AB

So it's not necessarily a policy where you feel it's important that it only be Canadian money. It just simply happens to be that way.

11:30 a.m.

Executive Director, Council of Canadians

Andrea Furlong

No, it's more related to accessing foundation funding. It's something that foundations in the United States are interested in—donating to a section 501(c)(3) charity.

11:30 a.m.

Conservative

Blake Richards Conservative Banff—Airdrie, AB

I'm just curious, then, what your thoughts are in terms of foreign funds. Obviously, political parties or candidates in Canada can't take donations from foreign individuals. I think that's a good thing, by the way, personally. I imagine you probably would agree with me.

What are your thoughts on third party groups using foreign funds to advocate or engage in activities during our elections? Do you think it's something that is advisable, or do you think we should discourage that?