Evidence of meeting #112 for Procedure and House Affairs in the 42nd Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was third.

A recording is available from Parliament.

On the agenda

MPs speaking

Also speaking

Vivian Krause  Researcher and Writer, As an Individual
Gary Rozon  Auditor, Gary Rozon CMA Inc., As an Individual
Anna Di Carlo  National Leader, National Headquarters, Marxist-Leninist Party of Canada
Talis Brauns  Mediation Officer, Marijuana Party
Marc Chénier  General Counsel and Senior Director, Legal Services, Office of the Commissioner of Canada Elections
Clerk of the Committee  Mr. Andrew Lauzon
John Turmel  As an Individual
Brian Marlatt  Communications and Policy Director, Progressive Canadian Party

7:05 p.m.

NDP

Nathan Cullen NDP Skeena—Bulkley Valley, BC

You've never taken any speaking fees or anything like that.

7:05 p.m.

Researcher and Writer, As an Individual

Vivian Krause

When I say I'm not funded, I say that the work I have done I have never been paid to do. I did it starting in about 2006 and—

7:05 p.m.

NDP

Nathan Cullen NDP Skeena—Bulkley Valley, BC

Did you work for—

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Researcher and Writer, As an Individual

Vivian Krause

Please let me finish my sentence, sir.

I didn't do any speaking engagements until six years later, so by logic, my work was not funded by industry, seeing that most of it took place before I ever did any sort of speaking.

7:10 p.m.

NDP

Nathan Cullen NDP Skeena—Bulkley Valley, BC

But you take fees from industry and that makes it more—

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Researcher and Writer, As an Individual

Vivian Krause

You know, sir, in the last month I've spoken in Fort St. John, Fort Nelson, Kitimat, in your riding, and in Victoria, and I haven't been paid for any of it.

7:10 p.m.

NDP

Nathan Cullen NDP Skeena—Bulkley Valley, BC

It's okay to answer the question. If you've received speaking fees from the oil and gas sector and from the mining sector—

7:10 p.m.

Researcher and Writer, As an Individual

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NDP

Nathan Cullen NDP Skeena—Bulkley Valley, BC

—that's okay to say.

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Researcher and Writer, As an Individual

Vivian Krause

I'm happy to say it and I'm proud to say it.

7:10 p.m.

NDP

Nathan Cullen NDP Skeena—Bulkley Valley, BC

Okay. It just took a while to get there.

The question is did you worry about the $1.2 million that came from foreign fish farm companies to the B.C. government when it was run by Christy Clark?

7:10 p.m.

Researcher and Writer, As an Individual

Vivian Krause

Hang on a second here. We're here to talk about Bill C-76.

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NDP

Nathan Cullen NDP Skeena—Bulkley Valley, BC

Absolutely. We're talking about foreign influence.

You said that as a principle, you have a problem with foreign influence on Canadian political actors.

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Researcher and Writer, As an Individual

Vivian Krause

I think it should be disclosed. Even Leadnow is a progressive organization and as such, it has every right to be part of an international network.

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NDP

Nathan Cullen NDP Skeena—Bulkley Valley, BC

So what is it they're not disclosing?

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Researcher and Writer, As an Individual

Vivian Krause

What is not okay is for it to portray itself exclusively as a thoroughly Canadian youth-led movement when in fact there's more to it.

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NDP

Nathan Cullen NDP Skeena—Bulkley Valley, BC

Sure.

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Researcher and Writer, As an Individual

Vivian Krause

It's also part of a U.S. network of organizations that deliberately seek to swing elections.

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NDP

Nathan Cullen NDP Skeena—Bulkley Valley, BC

So if I go to the website of the Fraser Institute, which portrays itself as a uniquely Canadian institution taking three-quarters of a million dollars from the Koch brothers who have expressly said they want more lenient oil and gas regulations in Canada, is that okay?

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Researcher and Writer, As an Individual

Vivian Krause

The Fraser Institute has disclosed its funding from the Koch brothers, and if Leadnow would do the same, I wouldn't have a problem with that either.

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NDP

Nathan Cullen NDP Skeena—Bulkley Valley, BC

Are you suggesting Leadnow doesn't disclose to CRA or to anyone else where their funding comes from?

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Researcher and Writer, As an Individual

Vivian Krause

They are not a registered charity and therefore they do not need to disclose that to the CRA.

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NDP

Nathan Cullen NDP Skeena—Bulkley Valley, BC

So they don't disclose any of where their funding comes from?

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Researcher and Writer, As an Individual

Vivian Krause

They didn't until I asked for it.

7:10 p.m.

NDP

Nathan Cullen NDP Skeena—Bulkley Valley, BC

You use strange terms that are—