Evidence of meeting #119 for Procedure and House Affairs in the 42nd Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was hear.
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Liberal
The Chair Liberal Larry Bagnell
Well, I guess it is relevant that October 1st comes before October 2nd then.
Are you saying you're in agreement with the subamendment?
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Conservative
John Nater Conservative Perth—Wellington, ON
Again, I think from the seniors perspective, something we need to consider, as well, is how teenagers—
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Conservative
John Nater Conservative Perth—Wellington, ON
Oh, okay.
Well, do you know what, Chair? I do think there are others who want to specifically comment on adding this date, so perhaps I'll leave it to the next person on the list and come back and speak on a further intervention.
Thank you, Chair.
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Liberal
The Chair Liberal Larry Bagnell
On the subamendment, please be disciplined and comment on adding the date to the amendment, because that's all the subamendment is.
Is there further discussion?
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Liberal
The Chair Liberal Larry Bagnell
We're ready to vote on the subamendment which would add the date to the amendment.
Are we not ready to vote? Are you going to speak?
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Conservative
Scott Reid Conservative Lanark—Frontenac—Kingston, ON
Mr. Chair, I wonder, given the importance of this subamendment, if we could have a recorded vote.
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Liberal
The Chair Liberal Larry Bagnell
We will have a recorded vote.
(Subamendment negatived: nays 5; yeas 4)
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Liberal
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Conservative
John Nater Conservative Perth—Wellington, ON
Chair, to clarify, we're moving back to the original amendment, which states that we will not move to clause-by-clause until such time that we hear from the chief electoral officer. Again, I go back to the importance of this. Until we've heard from the CEO of Ontario, whose amendments in 2016 were implemented in the election of June 2018...I can foresee amendments coming out of that. I can foresee changes to this legislation coming out of the CEO's testimony.
In the same way, we will be hearing from the minister later this afternoon, at which point I would hope she would be able to come before us and suggest where she sees that amendments are appropriate.
We're still very much at the point where we are close to clause-by-clause. I think we are exceptionally close to clause-by-clause, and I think we are eager to see that happen at the appropriate time. However, we haven't quite reached that point yet, because we need to hear the information that will be brought to us by Mr. Essensa, the chief electoral officer of Ontario, and by the minister herself when she comes before the committee this afternoon at 3:30.
When I was speaking to the subamendment, Chair, you were eager to see me move along from that, but we are back to the point where this is germane. We need to hear from the CEO before we move to clause-by-clause, because of the very specific and deliberate changes proposed by the Government of Ontario in 2016 and implemented in 2018.
What I find interesting, because our Conservative party in previous Parliaments implemented fixed election dates—
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An hon. member
On a fixed election date.
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Conservative
Scott Reid Conservative Lanark—Frontenac—Kingston, ON
There may be a series of ironies relating to that.
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Hamilton Centre, NDP
This political senior is going be reminding you that—
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Conservative
John Nater Conservative Perth—Wellington, ON
But not a senior who can be recognized with your youthful age there, Mr. Christopherson.
I'm not ready to recognize you on National Seniors Day quite yet, which again is on Monday, which will be—
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Some hon. members
Oh, oh!
