Evidence of meeting #127 for Procedure and House Affairs in the 42nd Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was elections.

A recording is available from Parliament.

On the agenda

MPs speaking

Also speaking

Robert Sampson  Legal Counsel, Legal Services, Elections Canada
Trevor Knight  Senior Counsel, Legal Services, Elections Canada
Stephanie Kusie  Calgary Midnapore, CPC
Jean-François Morin  Senior Policy Advisor, Privy Council Office
Clerk of the Committee  Mr. Andrew Lauzon
Philippe Méla  Legislative Clerk
Linda Lapointe  Rivière-des-Mille-Îles, Lib.

12:50 p.m.

Rivière-des-Mille-Îles, Lib.

Linda Lapointe

That's easy: it would read "section 1" instead of "section 299".

12:50 p.m.

NDP

Nathan Cullen NDP Skeena—Bulkley Valley, BC

Maybe. I don't know. I'd like to hear Mr. Morin's comments on that.

12:50 p.m.

LCdr Jean-François Morin

In drafting transitional provisions, it's common to write the first clause that's concerned by the transitional provision in question as a benchmark clause in that transitional provision.

That specific provision in this case states that, if the act comes into force during the election period, the previous version of the act applies with respect to the election and all related obligations and rights, including obligations to report and rights to reimbursement of election expenses.

Section 299 was selected in accordance with this legislative drafting convention. It is the first section in the act that concerns candidates' obligations. However, the Chief Electoral Officer raised a concern about this section in one of the appearances he made before this committee after the bill was introduced.

"Section 299" has been replaced by "section 1" simply to express clearly that this transitional provision applies to all rights and obligations resulting from the act, particularly those with respect to third parties, candidates and registered parties, but also the other rights and obligations arising from the changes made by the bill.

For example, if the bill came into force during a by-election, none of these provisions would be in force for that by-election. The by-election would continue to be administered under the previous version of the Canada Elections Act.

This is a common transitional provision found in most bills amending the Canada Elections Act.

12:55 p.m.

NDP

Nathan Cullen NDP Skeena—Bulkley Valley, BC

In this bill or in...

12:55 p.m.

LCdr Jean-François Morin

A similar provision very frequently appears in all bills amending the Canada Elections Act, especially where political financing rules are amended.

12:55 p.m.

NDP

Nathan Cullen NDP Skeena—Bulkley Valley, BC

Mr. Knight or Mr. Sampson, do you want to add anything?

12:55 p.m.

Legal Counsel, Legal Services, Elections Canada

Robert Sampson

We do agree and, in fact, these provisions are modelled very closely on Bill C-23, the Fair Elections Act, and other acts before. This is very much in keeping with the tradition of transitional provisions.

(Amendment agreed to [See Minutes of Proceedings])

12:55 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Larry Bagnell

Just so the committee knows, we need the majority support of the committee to go past 1:00 p.m. We're that close.

12:55 p.m.

NDP

Nathan Cullen NDP Skeena—Bulkley Valley, BC

Is that right? Is that a practice that we've been keeping?

12:55 p.m.

Conservative

Scott Reid Conservative Lanark—Frontenac—Kingston, ON

I'm really familiar with this. On this, there is no dispute.

12:55 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Larry Bagnell

We don't want to revisit that.

On CPC-196 amendment to clause 384, do you want to present this?

12:55 p.m.

Calgary Midnapore, CPC

Stephanie Kusie

Sure. This is the Chief Electoral Officer's recommendation concerning transitional provisions in the event Bill C-76 takes effect during an election.

12:55 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Larry Bagnell

Is there any debate?

(Amendment negatived [See Minutes of Proceedings])

(Clause 384 as amended agreed to on division)

(Clauses 385 to 394 inclusive agreed to on division)

12:55 p.m.

Liberal

David Graham Liberal Laurentides—Labelle, QC

That's easier. It's faster.

(On clause 395)

12:55 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Larry Bagnell

CPC-197, do you want to present that, Stephanie?

12:55 p.m.

Calgary Midnapore, CPC

Stephanie Kusie

This maintains the authority to initiate prosecutions with the director of public prosecution.

12:55 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Larry Bagnell

Okay, we know how that's going to go.

12:55 p.m.

Voices

Oh, oh!

12:55 p.m.

NDP

Nathan Cullen NDP Skeena—Bulkley Valley, BC

You have no sense of drama, Chair.

12:55 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Larry Bagnell

This is the drama.

(Amendment negatived [See Minutes of Proceedings])

(Clause 395 agreed to)

(Clauses 396 to 400 inclusive agreed to on division)

(On clause 401)

1 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Larry Bagnell

The last clause is 401. We have CPC-198.

Do you want to introduce that?

1 p.m.

Calgary Midnapore, CPC

Stephanie Kusie

This is about pre-election spending limits on political parties, and deferring the implementation to 2021.

(Amendment negatived [See Minutes of Proceedings])

1 p.m.

Liberal

David Graham Liberal Laurentides—Labelle, QC

Does this apply to CPC-199?

1 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Larry Bagnell

Is that the same type of thing?

1 p.m.

Calgary Midnapore, CPC

Stephanie Kusie

We're withdrawing CPC-199.