Evidence of meeting #149 for Procedure and House Affairs in the 42nd Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was election.

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MPs speaking

Also speaking

Clerk of the Committee  Mr. Andrew Lauzon
André Boucher  Assistant Deputy Minister, Operations, Canadian Centre for Cyber Security, Communications Security Establishment

12:30 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Larry Bagnell

Is the motion translated into French?

Well, she did it verbally, right? So you can—

12:30 p.m.

Conservative

Stephanie Kusie Conservative Calgary Midnapore, AB

I can introduce it in French if you wish.

12:30 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Larry Bagnell

When you're discussing a topic, you can do a motion verbally at the committee at the time.

We'll just read it again, and then you'll get it in French. Okay?

12:30 p.m.

Liberal

Linda Lapointe Liberal Rivière-des-Mille-Îles, QC

I wanted to have it in writing.

Do you have it in writing in French?

12:30 p.m.

Liberal

David Graham Liberal Laurentides—Labelle, QC

Might I suggest that we start our next meeting on this topic?

12:30 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Larry Bagnell

Our next meeting is on the estimates.

12:30 p.m.

Conservative

Stephanie Kusie Conservative Calgary Midnapore, AB

I would prefer that it be resolved today.

12:30 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Larry Bagnell

Okay, we can vote. She can do a verbal motion, and we can vote on it.

Just say it again.

12:30 p.m.

Conservative

Stephanie Kusie Conservative Calgary Midnapore, AB

Okay.

The motion reads:

That, pursuant to Standing Order 108(3)(a)(vi), the Committee continue the study of Security and Intelligence Threats to Elections; that the study consist of five meetings; and that the findings be reported to the House.

12:30 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Larry Bagnell

Is the committee ready to vote?

Mr. Graham.

12:30 p.m.

Liberal

David Graham Liberal Laurentides—Labelle, QC

If we're not going to take the time to have a proper discussion, I'm going to have to vote against it at this time.

It's up to you. If you want to have a proper debate in the future, I'm happy to do that, but if it's now, it's no.

12:30 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Larry Bagnell

Is there any other debate?

12:30 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Larry Bagnell

Mr. Cullen.

12:30 p.m.

NDP

Nathan Cullen NDP Skeena—Bulkley Valley, BC

That's a suggestion of openness to the idea and the concept of studying this, but it's just a matter of the process being used. There might simply be a need to have a conversation between parties or within parties, but there is a serious openness to considering it. I think the topic is excellent. Clearly this is something that we should all be—

12:30 p.m.

Liberal

David Graham Liberal Laurentides—Labelle, QC

I'm happy to have a proper discussion, but we have six minutes until the votes.

12:30 p.m.

NDP

Nathan Cullen NDP Skeena—Bulkley Valley, BC

I understand, so the time pressure might be a factor.

I wonder, my Conservative colleague, if this is something that we're interested in doing, if standing it for a moment, but with an indication and a commitment to seriously consider it and even look at maybe making this happen prior to Parliament rising would be.... I just don't want to throw the baby out with the bathwater, as they say.

12:30 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Larry Bagnell

Stephanie, it's up to you. We could vote now or we could discuss it later.

12:30 p.m.

Conservative

Stephanie Kusie Conservative Calgary Midnapore, AB

Okay, we can discuss it later.

12:30 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Larry Bagnell

Okay, we'll discuss it as soon as possible.

Thank you very much for being effective.

As we said before, we have estimates at the next couple of meetings, and we'll do these two motions.

12:30 p.m.

Conservative

Scott Reid Conservative Lanark—Frontenac—Kingston, ON

Mr. Chair, before we adjourn, I do have one other thing to say.

Regarding the practice of keeping the committee going with unanimous consent, the consent was given for one purpose and we have morphed into several purposes. Nobody did anything wrong, but I think we agreed to extend it for the purpose of listening to the minister's testimony, and several other items came up.

As a practical matter, I think we should be prepared to discuss that when we return to my point of order, because I think this is related to that point of order.

12:30 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Larry Bagnell

Is that part of your point of order?

12:30 p.m.

Conservative

Scott Reid Conservative Lanark—Frontenac—Kingston, ON

Well, it will be one of the things that we should all be prepared to discuss at that time.

Thank you.

12:30 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Larry Bagnell

Okay.

The meeting is adjourned.