Procedure and House Affairs Committee on Dec. 8th, 2016

[The Chair, Liberal, Larry Bagnell]

There's 20 there now.

[David Graham, Liberal, Laurentides—Labelle, QC]

That's my point.

[The Chair, Liberal, Larry Bagnell]

This would be number 21, and we'll discuss that. Don, you be the champion because you suggested that.

Maybe you can come up with the wording that reflects what you just said, when we get to discuss it.

[David Graham, Liberal, Laurentides—Labelle, QC]

I'm trying to make the point that I don't think we should limit ourselves to what we found here.

[The Chair, Liberal, Larry Bagnell]

Right.

[David Graham, Liberal, Laurentides—Labelle, QC]

If we go back to the caucuses and come up with new ideas, then by all means let's have a discussion about them. I think our idea is to fix the rules. Let's fix them properly.

[The Chair, Liberal, Larry Bagnell]

Some of the ideas that got kicked out, the person—

[David Graham, Liberal, Laurentides—Labelle, QC]

Might want it back.

[The Chair, Liberal, Larry Bagnell]

—might want it back. If they weren't here.

[David Graham, Liberal, Laurentides—Labelle, QC]

That said, I don't see any reason to continue on this until we've had a chance to go to our caucuses.

[The Chair, Liberal, Larry Bagnell]

Right.

[David Graham, Liberal, Laurentides—Labelle, QC]

I don't know if you guys agree with that.

[The Chair, Liberal, Larry Bagnell]

David is suggesting we don't have much more work to do today, until we've gone back to our caucuses. We're not going to really be able to get to our caucuses by next meeting, which is when we're supposed to discuss this, on Tuesday.

[David Graham, Liberal, Laurentides—Labelle, QC]

We can wait until next week on this. I don't see a reason to proceed with that. If we can go straight to the minister at noon next Tuesday, I think we'll be fine with that.

[The Chair, Liberal, Larry Bagnell]

Blake.

[Blake Richards, Conservative, Banff—Airdrie, AB]

I'm not sure I heard everything you said. I would argue that since we don't really have.... We should be seeking the minister, and seeing if there's a possibility of two hours with the minister. As we pointed out the other day, there isn't really enough time to deal with and address the concerns and questions we have. I'm afraid we wouldn't move forward without it.

[The Chair, Liberal, Larry Bagnell]

I think Arnold answered that last meeting.

[Arnold Chan, Liberal, Scarborough—Agincourt, ON]

I said the minister's in cabinet right?

[Blake Richards, Conservative, Banff—Airdrie, AB]

Of course she is. So be it. I guess we won't get our answers then. We likely wouldn't anyway, so it's irrelevant.

[The Chair, Liberal, Larry Bagnell]

The proposal is this. We're almost finished right now. Because we have to go back to caucuses, and caucuses don't meet before next Tuesday, the one hour to continue this on Tuesday we wouldn't do.

[David Graham, Liberal, Laurentides—Labelle, QC]

Unless you have a great objection, I don't....

[Anita Vandenbeld, Liberal, Ottawa West—Nepean, ON]

Could I make a suggestion? This will probably require the break. Maybe the analyst could look through it, and if there are some that have obvious content about another parliament doing it a certain way or it having been studied before in this committee, perhaps she could find some of that, so that we would have a bit more background when we come back to some of these points.

[David Graham, Liberal, Laurentides—Labelle, QC]

A lot of it comes from [Inaudible—Editor].

[Anita Vandenbeld, Liberal, Ottawa West—Nepean, ON]

Yes, the [Inaudible—Editor].

[The Chair, Liberal, Larry Bagnell]

Are you talking about Tuesday?