Evidence of meeting #45 for Procedure and House Affairs in the 42nd Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was champion.

A recording is available from Parliament.

On the agenda

MPs speaking

Also speaking

Clerk of the Committee  Mr. Andrew Lauzon
Dara Lithwick  Committee Researcher

11:25 a.m.

Conservative

Tom Lukiwski Conservative Moose Jaw—Lake Centre—Lanigan, SK

This is just a question, not a point or order or a point of clarification. Will these be the only suggested changes, or is there still opportunity for members to suggest other changes to the Standing Orders?

11:25 a.m.

Liberal

Arnold Chan Liberal Scarborough—Agincourt, ON

I'd be open to ideas.

11:25 a.m.

Liberal

David Graham Liberal Laurentides—Labelle, QC

Let me answer that. This committee is master of its own destiny. We're charged with the Standing Orders, and if anyone wants to raise anything at any time, and we have consensus, then I don't see why we can't bring that forward. This is just the mandated opportunity under the Standing Orders.

11:25 a.m.

Conservative

Tom Lukiwski Conservative Moose Jaw—Lake Centre—Lanigan, SK

No, that's great. I didn't know how you were operating, but—

11:25 a.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Larry Bagnell

We have a mandate to review the Standing Orders, so you can add stuff if your caucuses want to add things to this.

11:25 a.m.

Conservative

Tom Lukiwski Conservative Moose Jaw—Lake Centre—Lanigan, SK

I would certainly add one, but I don't think I would even get support from my caucus—

11:25 a.m.

Some hon. members

Oh, oh!

11:25 a.m.

Liberal

Arnold Chan Liberal Scarborough—Agincourt, ON

So we have to apply your own rules.

11:25 a.m.

Conservative

Tom Lukiwski Conservative Moose Jaw—Lake Centre—Lanigan, SK

No, no, I mean the rules would be....

I'd love to see a system enacted, as other parliaments have done throughout the world, where notes are not allowed. If you want to get up and make a speech, you don't have any notes.

11:25 a.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Larry Bagnell

Okay, except we're not doing the new suggestions right now.

Oh, it's in here.

11:25 a.m.

Some hon. members

Oh, oh!

11:30 a.m.

Liberal

Arnold Chan Liberal Scarborough—Agincourt, ON

But you do recognize that invariably means that both Garnet and Kevin will basically dominate.

11:30 a.m.

Some hon. members

Oh, oh!

11:30 a.m.

An hon. member

Garnet uses notes now?

11:30 a.m.

Liberal

Arnold Chan Liberal Scarborough—Agincourt, ON

Garnet does use notes.

11:30 a.m.

Liberal

David Graham Liberal Laurentides—Labelle, QC

My only objective right now is to do a bit of trash collection, so one thing at a time.

11:30 a.m.

Conservative

Tom Lukiwski Conservative Moose Jaw—Lake Centre—Lanigan, SK

No, that's fine.

11:30 a.m.

Liberal

David Graham Liberal Laurentides—Labelle, QC

We can add new trash later.

11:30 a.m.

Liberal

Ginette Petitpas Taylor Liberal Moncton—Riverview—Dieppe, NB

I think it's in there.

11:30 a.m.

Liberal

David Graham Liberal Laurentides—Labelle, QC

Yes, you can sponsor it now.

Let's get back to the meeting.

11:30 a.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Larry Bagnell

Topic 5 is questions following speeches: limit who can be recognized by the Speaker to ask questions following a speech to members from parties other than the member giving the speech.

Actually, the Speaker has already implemented that.

11:30 a.m.

Liberal

David Graham Liberal Laurentides—Labelle, QC

But if nobody else's party gets up, he'll still come back from the same party. That would get rid of that. I won't defend that.

11:30 a.m.

NDP

Don Davies NDP Vancouver Kingsway, BC

I think it's a bad suggestion.

11:30 a.m.

Liberal

David Graham Liberal Laurentides—Labelle, QC

Yes, me too.

11:30 a.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Larry Bagnell

Okay, it's something we're not doing.

Topic 6 is to eliminate sharing or splitting of speaking times.

No one's championing that, good.

I'm neutral, sorry.