Evidence of meeting #55 for Procedure and House Affairs in the 42nd Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was opposition.

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Anne Lawson  General Counsel and Senior Director, Elections Canada
Clerk of the Committee  Mr. Andrew Lauzon
Andre Barnes  Committee Researcher
David Groves  Analyst, Library of Parliament

4:05 p.m.

Conservative

Todd Doherty Conservative Cariboo—Prince George, BC

Oh, salty? Well, it's insulting, actually, too. It's insulting to Canadians, with all due respect.

There are parliamentary secretaries and there are a couple of ministers across the way who know their file inside and out. Whether we like to hear the answer or not, they actually answer the questions fairly well. That's important, and if we were to move to a PM's question period....

It's not performance art. We know that his background was in drama, and sometimes I feel as though I'm watching an audition. Honestly, Mr. Chair, I don't mean to poke fun, but when my kids can say, “Oh, he has his dramatic voice on”—that's not me, but my kids, who are not the most political people in the world.... When our Prime Minister stands up and has a very dramatic voice, they know that....

I digress. I think it's important, if we are going to do a prime minister's question period, that we actually get answers.

I don't believe we should be supplying questions ahead of time. I think it's important that the opposition members have an opportunity...not to surprise, but I don't think we should be providing questions in advance for a canned answer. I just don't think that's right.

4:05 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Larry Bagnell

Just a moment. Let me tell everyone in the room, especially House of Commons staff, that you're all welcome. There's lots of extra food. Whether you're a witnesses or House of Commons staff or interpreters, help yourselves.

4:05 p.m.

Liberal

Scott Simms Liberal Coast of Bays—Central—Notre Dame, NL

Mr. Chair, on a point of order, it's becoming a bit noisy in here, too.

4:05 p.m.

Conservative

Todd Doherty Conservative Cariboo—Prince George, BC

With that point on question period, and opposition asking the questions and expecting an answer, let's get back to the reason we have question period. That is the opposition's opportunity to really question the government and to hold them accountable. As much as I respect the parliamentary secretaries, I would prefer to have a minister to tell me what they're doing on their file. I would prefer to have the Prime Minister in here, actually answering a question.

I'm going to back to the wisdom of Dr. Seuss. I have another quote, “Sometimes the questions are complicated and the answers are simple.” Isn't that the truth? Questions are complicated, and answers are simple. Sometimes we get so carried away with our talking points.

I'll use an example of that. I was speaking to a group recently. God love our office and our team. We have an incredible team. How it usually goes is they build the background to a speech on a topic we choose and the group we're meeting with. Then they flavour it with some of the suggestions I have. Then I go back and rewrite it. Or if it's bang on, then we'll run with it.

Well, there was a speech that was done through my office. Nobody else was involved. We write our own speeches. I looked at it and I asked what we were trying to say. Who's our audience? The reality is that it might have been 10 or 11 pages. Four of those pages were trying to get a point across. I'm saying to them that we could say the very same thing with fewer words. The question is very complicated when the answer is very simple.

I think the answer is very simple with the question that we have before us here.

4:05 p.m.

An hon. member

It's yes or no.

4:05 p.m.

Conservative

Todd Doherty Conservative Cariboo—Prince George, BC

Right. Very often, the opposition asks the government, and it is a simple yes or no.

We get this gobbledegook, bafflegab, buzzwords that mean nothing. Canadians at home and in opposition are sitting there scratching their heads. I think the reason people tune us out is that they see that.

There are things we can do without changing the Standing Orders at all. If the government wants us to be better, we can always be better. Then they should be better at that. That makes sense, doesn't it? It's common sense to me. I'm just speaking from the heart. I'm a good ol' guy from the Cariboo, where we have some incredible people, salt of the earth.

4:05 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Larry Bagnell

Ms. Duncan could confirm that this is a long-standing problem.

4:05 p.m.

Conservative

Todd Doherty Conservative Cariboo—Prince George, BC

I can only speak to what I know today. I don't have the benefit of being part of any other previous Parliament. I'm glad we have others who have been here a longer time than I have.

Ms. Duncan, could you tell me how long you have been in office?

March 21st, 2017 / 4:05 p.m.

NDP

Linda Duncan NDP Edmonton Strathcona, AB

I'm losing count. It's between eight and nine years.

I have a strong recommendation to make, though, regarding the rules. I was going table a motion one day to just change the name from “question period” to “answer period”.

4:05 p.m.

Conservative

Todd Doherty Conservative Cariboo—Prince George, BC

There you go—“answer period”, AP. That's great. It's time for AP.

Ms. Duncan will appreciate what I'm saying here. I'm a new member of Parliament. If you look around the room here, very few of us have been here more than 18 months.

I don't know what you did in your previous role, or if you were a business person, but I would never go into somebody's business....

Well, I can't say that. I was a consultant, actually—

4:05 p.m.

Voices

Oh, oh!

4:05 p.m.

Conservative

Todd Doherty Conservative Cariboo—Prince George, BC

—so let me rephrase that.

Without knowing everything, I would never go into somebody's business, or go into somebody's household or home or team, and say, “This is the way it should be done. The more I watch you, the more I think you're doing it wrong.” We can always armchair-quarterback things. I'm the best at telling you how my Seattle Seahawks are going to win. And don't bring up the Super Bowl, because the wounds are still too raw from that failed attempt. That was a couple of years ago. I can armchair-quarterback like the best of them.

To Ms. Duncan, the point is this. I don't think that we, as newbies, should be coming in and arbitrarily ramming down thoughts.... I think it's something that, truthfully, to spur a discussion...but this wasn't to spur a discussion. When you're mediating, or actually going through the media with this....

They were hoping that this was going to get a favourable response from all, and that the fear from the opposition was, “Oh, they have the media onside. We can't do anything about it.” But little did they know that we can do stuff about it, and we will continue to do it for as long as it takes, so that we can find that common ground I was talking about.

Mr. Chair, we talked a little bit about leading up to the election and then getting elected. A couple of weeks after being elected, I actually managed to set foot here. I was chomping at the bit. I was ready to go. I think we put 65,000 kilometres on my truck during the campaign. I can't remember how many doors we knocked on, I think 30,000 or 70,000, and the phone calls we made were close to the same amount. But I was ready to go. I was not tired. I was ready to go on October 20. I couldn't get here fast enough.

I arrived in Ottawa with two pieces of paper: a SWOT analysis of Cariboo—Prince George, the opportunities and challenges, where I thought we could make an impact; and background on Bill C-211, on which I worked with the legislative committee to try to get it to where we are today. As I've said before, I came at it with pure intentions to work collaboratively across the floor.

I have to bring it back to where I think we've kind of gone wrong. I can only speak for myself, but I bring it back to that week of May 17, when motion six was tabled and there was elbowgate or whatever you want to call it. There was the kerfuffle around that, the apology, and the questions about intent and what have you.

I think it's really important to go back to one of the things Ms. Sahota mentioned. I highlighted it, Mr. Chair, when she mentioned it. I bring this up with all due respect. She said that if you're really going to truthfully set forth with pure intentions, you don't politicize something.

Are you kidding me? Who politicized this? If this really was a discussion paper, if you and I were going to have a discussion, if we were going to talk truthfully and have a good discussion as a group or a committee or House leaders, would I go to the media first and say, hey, by the way, here's what we're going to discuss?

How would that make you feel?

4:05 p.m.

Liberal

Robert-Falcon Ouellette Liberal Winnipeg Centre, MB

Mr. Doherty, I have a question for you. You were talking about when you first came to Parliament, and you brought those two pieces of paper. I also remember that when you first came, you did three private members' bills, right?

4:05 p.m.

Conservative

Todd Doherty Conservative Cariboo—Prince George, BC

I did.

4:05 p.m.

Liberal

Robert-Falcon Ouellette Liberal Winnipeg Centre, MB

You were the first one to get up, right off the bat.

4:05 p.m.

Conservative

Todd Doherty Conservative Cariboo—Prince George, BC

I love this guy.

4:05 p.m.

Liberal

Robert-Falcon Ouellette Liberal Winnipeg Centre, MB

It was pretty incredible. You should tell us about those.

4:05 p.m.

Conservative

Todd Doherty Conservative Cariboo—Prince George, BC

I will, but first I want to....

I really appreciate that, because I actually—

4:05 p.m.

Liberal

Robert-Falcon Ouellette Liberal Winnipeg Centre, MB

No, seriously, I'd really love to hear it, Todd.

4:05 p.m.

Conservative

Todd Doherty Conservative Cariboo—Prince George, BC

I appreciate that. That's actually on here. I will go back.

4:05 p.m.

Liberal

Robert-Falcon Ouellette Liberal Winnipeg Centre, MB

Okay.

4:05 p.m.

Conservative

Todd Doherty Conservative Cariboo—Prince George, BC

I just want to go to this point about politicizing an issue. You know, there are times and situations when all sides have gone to the media and have done our negotiations not across the table but perhaps through the media. There are times when that happens.

I find it interesting that this would come from the other side, about politicizing an issue, because it wasn't us who politicized this.

I'll go back to the comment I had about how we diminish trust. I'll use this as an example. Have you ever gotten mad at someone, whether it's in your caucus, or maybe in a previous lifetime, and instead of trying to work it out with each other, you escalate the issue by hitting “reply all” or copying everyone, your boss, their boss, or your boss's boss? That's how you escalate an issue. I'm using this as an example because I would say, with all due respect, the government House leader escalated this issue and maybe miscalculated it by going to the media.

I'll go back to the document I produced here. You're bypassing the person or group involved. What you're choosing to do is trying to skirt the issue....

Maybe I'm talking too much. It looks like the hook's coming in.

4:05 p.m.

Voices

Oh, oh!

4:05 p.m.

Conservative

Todd Doherty Conservative Cariboo—Prince George, BC

I'm here now. I've waited.

Let me tell you what happened last week when I was supposed to be here. Little did you know—

4:05 p.m.

An hon. member

You still have three bills to talk about.