Evidence of meeting #6 for Procedure and House Affairs in the 42nd Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was process.
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12:25 p.m.
Liberal
Arnold Chan Liberal Scarborough—Agincourt, ON
On a point of order, I just want the chair's clarification that the matter was in fact moved and seconded.
12:25 p.m.
Liberal
The Chair Liberal Larry Bagnell
It doesn't have to be seconded, but it's moved. Whether it was moved then or moved now, it's moved.
Go ahead, Mr. Lamoureux.
12:25 p.m.
Liberal
Kevin Lamoureux Liberal Winnipeg North, MB
Mr. Chair, not to make matters more complicated, but all I heard earlier from Mr. Richards was that he would like to move a motion to have the minister appear before a committee. What we just heard was a detailed motion. That's the first time I heard the detailed motion. That's why I'm questioning. Was there in fact a formal movement of that motion? I don't think you can say, “I'm going to move a motion on X”, and then an hour later say, “Let me provide the details of that motion.”
What Mr. Chan had moved was actually the detail of a motion, and the record would clearly demonstrate that to be the case.
12:25 p.m.
Liberal
The Chair Liberal Larry Bagnell
I don't want to get into all this arguing about who proposed what and when. There was a lot of preamble, but the motion is that we bring the minister.
What I need to know now is the order in which we want to do things. Do we want to carry on with motions? Do we want to go in camera to do committee business? Do we want to hear the report?
Go ahead, Mr. Christopherson
12:30 p.m.
NDP
David Christopherson NDP Hamilton Centre, ON
Chair, my sense is that somehow we'll manage through the next 30 minutes and do whatever. I think you can see that we desperately need a subcommittee meeting to start getting some of these ducks in order.
There's a little bit of partisanship in some of it, but there's still a whole lot of other work that is non-partisan that we want to get to. I urge you to please call a subcommittee as quickly as possible to help sort out this whole thing. Hopefully, we can make recommendations back to the full committee.
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Liberal
12:30 p.m.
Conservative
Scott Reid Conservative Lanark—Frontenac—Kingston, ON
On that, before we agree, as long as we don't have the effect of causing Mr. Richards' motion to be shunted off to the subcommittee—
12:30 p.m.
Conservative
12:30 p.m.
Conservative
Scott Reid Conservative Lanark—Frontenac—Kingston, ON
In that case, I think that's a good point now. A subcommittee would be very handy, and I'd like us to move if possible directly to consideration of the motions after that.
12:30 p.m.
Liberal
The Chair Liberal Larry Bagnell
Okay. It's agreed that we're going to have a subcommittee.
Now, let's quickly pick a time when the members on the subcommittee.... Are you talking about this week, which is basically the rest of today, or the first day back?
Mr. Christopherson.
12:30 p.m.
NDP
David Christopherson NDP Hamilton Centre, ON
Well, I guess common sense would dictate it would probably be the day we get back.
12:30 p.m.
NDP
David Christopherson NDP Hamilton Centre, ON
Quite frankly, until we actually sort out a time, and that can't happen till we all sit down—
12:30 p.m.
NDP
David Christopherson NDP Hamilton Centre, ON
—I'd be prepared, Chair, to see if you could try to work with the other appointees, because there are only a couple of them, to find a time that works.
12:30 p.m.
NDP
David Christopherson NDP Hamilton Centre, ON
Use your judgment, call the first one, and then see if we can come to an agreement on a regularized time for the subcommittee.
12:30 p.m.
Liberal
The Chair Liberal Larry Bagnell
Okay, so we'll likely have a subcommittee meeting on the Monday when we return. We'll figure out a time with the people, and we'll—
12:30 p.m.
Liberal
Arnold Chan Liberal Scarborough—Agincourt, ON
I would simply note that we're actually not returning on the Monday. We're returning on the Tuesday—
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Liberal
Arnold Chan Liberal Scarborough—Agincourt, ON
—because of Family Day, so we're not scheduled to return on the 15th.
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Liberal
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Liberal
