Evidence of meeting #12 for Procedure and House Affairs in the 43rd Parliament, 2nd Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was pandemic.
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11:55 a.m.
Bloc
Alain Therrien Bloc La Prairie, QC
Madam Chair, I'd like to say very quickly that, for me, I've said what I had to say. I understood that the valuable colleague who is responsible for security was going to discuss with me about what had been done in my case. That satisfied me. If you want to discuss this in camera later, I have no problem with that.
However, for me, I'd be willing to continue the discussion on the budget with the current witnesses. There, that's what I wanted to say.
11:55 a.m.
Liberal
The Chair Liberal Ruby Sahota
Thank you, Mr. Therrien.
Mr. Lukiwski, I think you'll be the last speaker on this point of order.
11:55 a.m.
Conservative
Tom Lukiwski Conservative Moose Jaw—Lake Centre—Lanigan, SK
Very quickly, from a procedural standpoint, obviously, if we continue with this discussion in camera and we are not able to get to a vote, the estimates will still pass as if presented, so we don't have to take any time away from an in camera discussion on a very serious issue just because we have to have a vote. It would pass regardless.
Noon
Liberal
The Chair Liberal Ruby Sahota
Yes. You are procedurally correct, Mr. Lukiwski. That's why it's great to have people with lots of experience on the committee.
Noon
Liberal
The Chair Liberal Ruby Sahota
That is true, but members still have some questions that they wish to ask in today's meeting.
Yes, Mr. Doherty.
Noon
Conservative
Todd Doherty Conservative Cariboo—Prince George, BC
Just very briefly, we have one panel witness who has taken the time to be here. We never want to defer somebody or an organization, but this is an important discussion. I wonder if it would be possible to move that witness to another discussion on this on another day, and instead move to in camera at 12:30, if our Parliamentary Protective Service and the Sergeant-at-Arms are available.
Noon
Liberal
The Chair Liberal Ruby Sahota
We've only given them time up until 12:30, so I don't know. I guess we could ask, but the witnesses have been very difficult to secure and arrange and they've prepared statements and given them in advance and all of that. We'll talk about this at the very end. Our calendar is full up until the winter break, and we need to get this information in to the analysts so that we can work on our interim report and then the final report.
Noon
Conservative
Corey Tochor Conservative Saskatoon—University, SK
We have a motion on the floor to go in camera. Can we have that vote, please?
Noon
Liberal
Mark Gerretsen Liberal Kingston and the Islands, ON
Wait—do we have that motion? It's a point of order. Do we have that motion, because I never heard a motion moved.
Noon
A voice
Yes.
Noon
Liberal
The Chair Liberal Ruby Sahota
Oh, okay. I'm sorry. I didn't realize there was a formal motion, but yes, of course, a discussion, and if you moved that motion, we could have a vote.
Noon
NDP
Daniel Blaikie NDP Elmwood—Transcona, MB
Just on a quick point of order, Madam Chair, maybe we can get some advice from the clerk. I can't recall the routine motions, but I think that, typically, unless we've provided otherwise, a motion to move in camera is not debatable. I think we might have a rule that says—
Noon
NDP
Daniel Blaikie NDP Elmwood—Transcona, MB
—a representative of each party can speak for up to three minutes to a motion to go in camera, but I'm just looking for it. I know that's been done on some committees and not on others, so just to be [Inaudible—Editor]
Noon
Liberal
The Chair Liberal Ruby Sahota
I have been informed that it's non-debatable, so we will move to a vote on this at this time.
Justin, could you help us out with this, please? Maybe you could call the question so that they know to vote....
