Evidence of meeting #59 for Human Resources, Skills and Social Development and the Status of Persons with Disabilities in the 39th Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was lessard.

A recording is available from Parliament.

On the agenda

MPs speaking

Also speaking

Marla Israel  Director, International Policy and Agreements, Seniors and Pensions Policy Secretariat, Social Development Sectors Branch, Department of Human Resources and Social Development
Nancy Lawand  Director General, Canada Pension Plan Disability Directorate, Department of Human Resources and Social Development
Ross MacLeod  Associate Assistant Deputy Minister, Operations Branch, Service Canada
Suzan Kalinowski  Senior Economist, Department of Finance

5:10 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Dean Allison

We will then go to BQ-16.

Once again, previous motions have been ruled out of order because of royal recommendation, so I will also rule that one out of order to be consistent with what we've dealt with.

We are now going to move to motion NDP-3, which is the same issue again.

Do we want to reopen that?

5:10 p.m.

NDP

Chris Charlton NDP Hamilton Mountain, ON

Oh, I'd love to take another shot...no, I'm just kidding.

5:10 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Dean Allison

Three strikes and you're out.

We're going to deem that one defeated.

(Amendment negatived) [See Minutes of Proceedings]

5:10 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Dean Allison

We're going to move to motion BQ-17, which is the same. We're going to strike that.

Now we have clause 20 before us as it was originally written.

(Clause 20 agreed to)

(On clause 21)

5:10 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Dean Allison

We are now going to move to clause 21. We have an amendment, BQ-18. This is on page 21 of your handouts, page 19 of the actual bill.

Mr. Lessard, would you read the amendment and touch on that briefly, please?

5:10 p.m.

Bloc

Yves Lessard Bloc Chambly—Borduas, QC

Yes.

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Conservative

The Chair Conservative Dean Allison

Is it “shall” here?

5:10 p.m.

Bloc

Yves Lessard Bloc Chambly—Borduas, QC

Yes. We've disposed of it, Mr. Chair.

5:10 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Dean Allison

Thank you very much.

That is defeated.

(Amendment negatived) [See Minutes of Proceedings]

5:10 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Dean Allison

On clause 21 as it is written in the bill....

(Clause 21 agreed to)

(On clause 22)

5:10 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Dean Allison

We're going to go to clause 22. We have BQ amendment number 19.

Mr. Lessard, would you like to read that and give us a brief overview?. Once again, that is in your handouts. It's page 22 and page 19 of the bill.

5:10 p.m.

Bloc

Yves Lessard Bloc Chambly—Borduas, QC

Mr. Chair, I had two amendments to move on this point.

The word “If”, which appears at the start of the sentence, must be changed. I move that Bill C-36, in Clause 22, be amended by replacing line 27 on page 19 with the following:

26.1 When the requirement for an application for

That would replace what's proposed in the bill:

26.1 If the requirement for an application for

5:10 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Dean Allison

Did you want to talk to that briefly?

Is there anyone who wants to ask a question?

If there's no discussion, the amendment is BQ-19.

(Amendment agreed to)

5:10 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Dean Allison

Mr. Lessard, congratulations. We have an amendment that has carried.

5:10 p.m.

Bloc

Yves Lessard Bloc Chambly—Borduas, QC

Do I have your permission to deliver a speech of thanks, Mr. Chair?

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Some hon. members

Oh, oh!

5:10 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Dean Allison

Thank you.

Maybe we should have started with amendment 19 and worked our way around.

We're going to clause 22 as amended.

(Clause 22 as amended agreed to) [See Minutes of Proceedings]

5:10 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Dean Allison

On clause 23, there are no proposed amendments.

(Clauses 23 and 24 agreed to)

(On clause 25)

5:10 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Dean Allison

We're going to move to clause 25.

I believe that is BQ-20.

Mr. Lessard, we'll see what kind of a roll you're on here, sir.

If you would like to look at that in your packages, it is on page 23. On the actual bill, it is page 21.

Mr. Lessard, would you like to comment on that and read your amendment, please?

5:15 p.m.

Bloc

Yves Lessard Bloc Chambly—Borduas, QC

Pardon me, Mr. Chair, we should have put some order in our affairs. Remind me of the page number, please. Is it page 22?

5:15 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Dean Allison

It is on page 21 of the bill. It is BQ motion 20, which is found on page 23 of your handouts.

5:15 p.m.

Bloc

Yves Lessard Bloc Chambly—Borduas, QC

Mr. Chair, I move that Bill C-36, in Clause 25, be amended by deleting lines 1 to 3 on page 21.

We should see if we have disposed of this in another way. That's what I'm trying to check.

In the bill, the paragraph reads as follows:

(d) on the conditions that may be prescribed, any other individual authorized in writing by the individual.

I believe we've previously disposed of that, haven't we?

5:15 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Dean Allison

I'll deem the amendment to have been not carried.

(Amendment negatived) [See Minutes of Proceedings]

Shall clause 25 carry the way it is written?

(Clauses 25 to 27 inclusive agreed to)

5:15 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Dean Allison

I see light at the end of the tunnel.

(On clause 28)

5:15 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Dean Allison

On clause 28, we do have some amendments before us. We've got BQ-21. I believe we did have some of this discussion before. Do we want to deem this as...?