Evidence of meeting #4 for Human Resources, Skills and Social Development and the Status of Persons with Disabilities in the 41st Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was framework.

A recording is available from Parliament.

On the agenda

MPs speaking

Also speaking

Jean-François LaRue  Director General, Labour Market Integration, Skills and Employment Branch, Department of Human Resources and Skills Development
Natasha Pateman  Acting Director General, Foreign Credentials Referral Office, Department of Citizenship and Immigration Canada
Margo Craig Garrison  Director, Health Human Resources Policy Division, Department of Health
Jonathan Wells  Director, Operations, Labour Market Integration, Skills and Employment Branch, Department of Human Resources and Skills Development
Brendan Walsh  Director, Foreign Qualification Recognition, Foreign Credentials Referral Office, Department of Citizenship and Immigration Canada

5:15 p.m.

Conservative

Phil McColeman Conservative Brant, ON

Does what I'm talking about make sense?

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Director General, Labour Market Integration, Skills and Employment Branch, Department of Human Resources and Skills Development

5:15 p.m.

Conservative

Phil McColeman Conservative Brant, ON

Does it make sense to the people from Immigration?

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Director, Foreign Qualification Recognition, Foreign Credentials Referral Office, Department of Citizenship and Immigration Canada

Brendan Walsh

Well, there is indirect targeting, in the sense that Immigration Canada does have something called ministerial instructions. The minister has the purview to designate certain occupations as being in demand. We determine which occupations are in demand through consultations to see where there are labour market shortages. So at any given time there's a list of occupations where we give preference to immigrants coming to those intended occupations.

5:20 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Ed Komarnicki

Thank you.

We'll move now to Ms. Crowder.

5:20 p.m.

NDP

Jean Crowder NDP Nanaimo—Cowichan, BC

Thank you.

I have a bunch of questions on the numbers.

On page 7 of the CIC brief, where you are talking about the CIIP program, you indicated that 62% of the 1,051 graduates found employment in their first six months after arrival. Do you have any idea who found employment in their recognized field out of that 62%?

5:20 p.m.

Acting Director General, Foreign Credentials Referral Office, Department of Citizenship and Immigration Canada

Natasha Pateman

I do have that.

Sorry, it's just going to take me two seconds to find it.

5:20 p.m.

NDP

Jean Crowder NDP Nanaimo—Cowichan, BC

While you're looking for that number, I'll pose a question for Mrs. Craig Garrison.

Of the residencies available in Canada for physicians, how many of them are available for foreign-trained physicians?

While you're getting that number, I'll go back to Ms. Pateman.

5:20 p.m.

Acting Director General, Foreign Credentials Referral Office, Department of Citizenship and Immigration Canada

Natasha Pateman

Thank you.

It's actually 60%. So it's quite high.

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NDP

Jean Crowder NDP Nanaimo—Cowichan, BC

So 60% of the 62% found work in their own fields?

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Acting Director General, Foreign Credentials Referral Office, Department of Citizenship and Immigration Canada

Natasha Pateman

That's right.

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NDP

Jean Crowder NDP Nanaimo—Cowichan, BC

So what would that be? According to my quick math, would it roughly be 240 people out of the 1,051?

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Acting Director General, Foreign Credentials Referral Office, Department of Citizenship and Immigration Canada

Natasha Pateman

Sorry, if I could just throw in another number, more than one-fifth, or 22%, were working in the same field or higher than in their home country. And 44% found employment within six months, and 62% within six months.

5:20 p.m.

NDP

Jean Crowder NDP Nanaimo—Cowichan, BC

Are those figures available on your website, or is there a report that we could look at?

5:20 p.m.

Acting Director General, Foreign Credentials Referral Office, Department of Citizenship and Immigration Canada

Natasha Pateman

The evaluation is public and we can certainly provide it to the committee.

5:20 p.m.

NDP

Jean Crowder NDP Nanaimo—Cowichan, BC

That would be very useful because it looks like this program is having some success.

Ms. Craig Garrison, did you find that number?

5:20 p.m.

Director, Health Human Resources Policy Division, Department of Health

Margo Craig Garrison

Yes. There are approximately 2,700, or in that range, of ministry-funded residencies across the country. Of those--

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NDP

Jean Crowder NDP Nanaimo—Cowichan, BC

Hang on. There are 2,700 funded residencies in total?

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Director, Health Human Resources Policy Division, Department of Health

Margo Craig Garrison

That's correct—approximately.

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NDP

Jean Crowder NDP Nanaimo—Cowichan, BC

Okay, approximately.

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Director, Health Human Resources Policy Division, Department of Health

Margo Craig Garrison

Of those, 426 are designated for INGs.

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NDP

Jean Crowder NDP Nanaimo—Cowichan, BC

Out of that 426, as I understood you to say earlier, those would include Canadians who went abroad to get their training or foreign-trained doctors who are immigrating here. So there are 426 available to that whole pool.

5:20 p.m.

Director, Health Human Resources Policy Division, Department of Health

Margo Craig Garrison

That's correct.

5:20 p.m.

NDP

Jean Crowder NDP Nanaimo—Cowichan, BC

Do you have any sense of how many foreign-trained physicians are actually interested in that pool?

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Director, Health Human Resources Policy Division, Department of Health

Margo Craig Garrison

It's approximately 1,900.