Evidence of meeting #3 for Citizenship and Immigration in the 39th Parliament, 2nd Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was camera.

A recording is available from Parliament.

On the agenda

MPs speaking

Also speaking

Clerk of the Committee  Mr. Andrew Chaplin

3:55 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Norman Doyle

Order. We are now in public session.

Could we have Ms. Faille give us the motion again, please?

November 22nd, 2007 / 3:55 p.m.

Conservative

Ed Komarnicki Conservative Souris—Moose Mountain, SK

Mr. Chair, we've had some discussion and I think we will end up supporting the motion as it is, but reluctantly. I want it on the record that notwithstanding that I think it's unreasonable, given our agenda and the fact that we'll be doing it on December 13, we will support the motion.

3:55 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Norman Doyle

Are you ready for the vote?

3:55 p.m.

Liberal

Jim Karygiannis Liberal Scarborough—Agincourt, ON

Do you want to read the motion?

3:55 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Norman Doyle

Madam Faille, would you read the motion again, please?

3:55 p.m.

Bloc

Meili Faille Bloc Vaudreuil—Soulanges, QC

The motion reads as follows:

That official representatives of Citizenship and Immigration Canada appear before the committee on December 13, 2007 and submit, by December 11, 2007, a history of regularization programs, statistics and a detailed report on undocumented workers.

3:55 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Norman Doyle

Thank you, Madam Faille.

(Motion agreed to)

3:55 p.m.

Conservative

Ed Komarnicki Conservative Souris—Moose Mountain, SK

Was that in camera?

3:55 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Norman Doyle

That was public.

We will now go in camera again.

[Proceedings continue in camera]

[Public proceedings resume]

4:05 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Norman Doyle

We're no longer in camera.

Let's try to get this amendment done.

4:05 p.m.

Liberal

Jim Karygiannis Liberal Scarborough—Agincourt, ON

Mr. Chair, I would ask that you take us back in camera or I'm going to challenge your ruling. I don't think you can, at the whim of one member, end our in camera proceedings. I don't think so, sir.

4:05 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Norman Doyle

I'll get direction from the clerk here.

4:05 p.m.

The Clerk of the Committee Mr. Andrew Chaplin

On a motion to sit in public or to sit in camera, the question is put without debate. It's put immediately and it's decided by a majority of the committee.

4:05 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Norman Doyle

Does that apply to going in camera or to public?

4:05 p.m.

The Clerk

It applies to both. Whether you're going in or out, it's done with the consent of the committee.

4:05 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Norman Doyle

You're saying this committee has to give consent to move in camera or to resume public proceedings.

4:05 p.m.

Liberal

Jim Karygiannis Liberal Scarborough—Agincourt, ON

You've got to move us back in camera. Are we in camera right now or not?

4:05 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Norman Doyle

Is there consent to resume public proceedings?

4:05 p.m.

Some hon. members

No.

4:05 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Norman Doyle

There's no consent.

4:05 p.m.

NDP

Olivia Chow NDP Trinity—Spadina, ON

I'll withdraw the amendment at this point.

4:05 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Norman Doyle

Order, please.

Do you wish to withdraw the amendment?

4:05 p.m.

NDP

Olivia Chow NDP Trinity—Spadina, ON

I'll withdraw it and I'll place it as a notice of motion when we become public, which is totally in order.

4:05 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Norman Doyle

We will proceed in camera.

[Proceedings continue in camera]