Evidence of meeting #47 for Citizenship and Immigration in the 39th Parliament, 2nd Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was million.

A recording is available from Parliament.

On the agenda

MPs speaking

Also speaking

Wayne Ganim  Chief Financial Officer, Finance Branch, Department of Citizenship and Immigration
Richard Fadden  Deputy Minister, Department of Citizenship and Immigration
Clerk of the Committee  Mr. Andrew Chaplin

3:35 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Norman Doyle

I want to welcome all of you here today to our meeting of the Standing Committee on Citizenship and Immigration. Today, of course, we're examining the main and supplementary estimates under Citizenship and Immigration.

I'm pleased to welcome Minister Finley back to our committee. And of course I want to welcome her deputy minister, Mr. Richard Fadden, and Mr. Wayne Ganim, who is the chief financial officer of the finance branch.

The minister is going to be here until five o'clock this afternoon, at which time she will have to go.

Minister, welcome to you and to your officials today. I would imagine you have an opening statement.

3:35 p.m.

Haldimand—Norfolk Ontario

Conservative

Diane Finley ConservativeMinister of Citizenship and Immigration

I do, Mr. Chair.

3:35 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Norman Doyle

Please proceed.

May 28th, 2008 / 3:35 p.m.

Conservative

Diane Finley Conservative Haldimand—Norfolk, ON

Thank you very much, Mr. Chair and honourable members.

Je vous remercie, monsieur le president et honorables députés.

Today I have the honour of placing before the committee my department's main estimates and supplementary estimates (A), both for the fiscal year 2008-09, for which I seek the committee's approval.

I propose to cover only some of the major items in my remarks, and address any areas of particular interest to the committee in the time allotted for questions. But before I proceed, I would like to put our commitments in the main and supplementary estimates in context.

Our government is committed to helping newcomers build a better life for themselves and their families. Our vision is to ensure that the people who have gone through so much to get here can get the jobs they need to succeed, because their success is our success.

That's why in 2006 we began investing an additional $1.4 billion over five years for settlement funding, for programs that help newcomers find jobs and get settled in their new communities.

We also made it more affordable for immigrant families to come here. We did this by cutting in half the right of permanent residence fee, saving a family of four almost $2,000.

We're lifting caps on the provincial nominee programs because we want to make it easier for provinces to bring in the people with the right skills, the right education, and the right work experience for local needs. Lifting these caps will also help us to overcome regional differences when it comes to access to skilled labour.

We are also allowing foreign post-secondary students to work off-campus now for the first time ever.

The interest in this change has been immediate. In 2005 there were just under 1,200 such students who worked off campus, and last year that number had exploded to more than 17,000.

Just recently, I was proud to announce a major expansion of the post-graduation work permit program. International students will no longer be required to work in an area directly related to their program of study or to obtain a job offer prior to being issued a work permit. In addition, the duration of the work permit has been extended to up to three years across the country. Previously, the program allowed international students to work for only one or two years, depending on the location.

This expansion of the program is great news for foreign students, and it's great news for Canada. Foreign students will now be able to get a work permit and then get a job. This will help to increase their independence and will give them much needed Canadian work experience. And it will give Canada an immediate source of talented Canadian-credentialled workers.

We have also kept our commitment to create a foreign credentials referrals office. This office helps would-be immigrants find out where and how to get their foreign credentials evaluated before they even get to Canada. It also provides a wealth of information about local labour markets, including current job postings and suggestions of related professions.

By identifying any gaps between the immigrants' credentials and Canadian standards, would-be newcomers can get to work upgrading their skills before they even get here, especially with the wide range of international partnerships that our post-secondary institutions are developing around the world. And that's good for all of us.

This information is also available to immigrants who are already here, through the website and the 320 Service Canada locations across the country. Since its launch less than a year ago, credentials.gc.ca has had over 250,000 hits, and by far the majority of those have been from overseas. So it's working.

On top of that, we've expanded pilot orientation programs started in India, China, and the Philippines by Human Resources and Social Development Canada and the Association of Canadian Community Colleges. These programs not only help immigrants check out their credentials, but also help them know what to expect when they get here, right down to how to buy a house or which bus to take to get their social insurance number.

So, Mr. Chair, our actions have shown our commitment to newcomers and their families.

With respect to the main estimates before us, the committee will note that the total main estimates for 2008-09 are just over $1.3 billion, an increase of just over $132 million, or 11%, from the previous year. This is due primarily to additional funding approved for three key initiatives: first, continued support of the Canada-Ontario Immigration Agreement and additional settlement funding for other provinces, totalling just over $156 million;

second, enhancements to the temporary foreign worker program, totalling $5.2 million.

and finally, the establishment of and operating funds for the Foreign Credentials Referral Office, totalling $2.4 million.

Mr. Chairman, I realize this is earlier in the year than you normally review supplementary estimates, but, as the President of the Treasury Board recently noted, by tabling these estimates earlier, the government is taking another step to enable Parliament to review the numbers earlier in the year and ensure the timely processing of budgetary commitments.

With respect to the supplementary estimates, I'd like to draw your attention to the following items in the estimates, which reflect appropriations totalling just over $21 million.

First, I wish to note that the department is requesting authority for an amount of approximately $8 million to provide first-year funding to modernize the immigration system and manage the backlog. This will allow the department to implement various administrative and efficiency measures.

Second, the department is requesting authority for an amount of $7.1 million to provide first-year funding for CIC to begin planning the implementation of biometrics in the temporary visa stream.

Third, CIC requests authority for an amount of $3.9 million to hire and train additional officers to properly assess complex caseloads stemming from new operational requirements on CIC as a result of the implementation of Bill C-3, dealing with security certificates.

Finally, Mr. Chair, the department requests transferring operating funds of $2.3 million from Foreign Affairs and International Trade Canada to cover the costs of the increase in applications from foreign participants in the international youth program. Through a network of bilateral and multilateral arrangements administered by DFAIT, this program provides young Canadians with an opportunity to gain work experience in other countries, and it enables international youth to gain work experience in Canada.

These are some of the major items.

I understand that the committee may wish clarification or explanation of the many other items in the main and supplementary estimates I have presented. My officials and I would be happy to respond to any questions the committee may have in this regard.

My officials and I would now be happy to respond to any questions the committee may have in this regard.

Thank you.

3:40 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Norman Doyle

Thank you, Minister.

We will now go to the question and answer period. I would ask the committee if it wishes to proceed in the same way we did when the minister was here before, with five-minute rounds.

Is that fair? Okay. We'll go with the five-minute rounds.

We'll start with Mr. Karygiannis.

3:40 p.m.

Liberal

Jim Karygiannis Liberal Scarborough—Agincourt, ON

Minister and your deputy, thank you for coming to the committee today.

I noticed that on page 56, under transportation and communication, you have spent $3,245,000. Does this figure include the advertising done by the department with respect to part 6 of Bill C-50?

3:40 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Norman Doyle

Could you make it a bit clearer?

3:40 p.m.

Liberal

Jim Karygiannis Liberal Scarborough—Agincourt, ON

On page 56....

3:40 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Norman Doyle

Page 56.

3:40 p.m.

Liberal

Jim Karygiannis Liberal Scarborough—Agincourt, ON

There's $3,245,000 for transportation and communication.

3:40 p.m.

Conservative

Diane Finley Conservative Haldimand—Norfolk, ON

Page 56 of which document, please?

3:40 p.m.

Liberal

Jim Karygiannis Liberal Scarborough—Agincourt, ON

Expenditures.

3:40 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Norman Doyle

Expenditures, page 56...I don't think the officials are clear on—

3:40 p.m.

Liberal

Jim Karygiannis Liberal Scarborough—Agincourt, ON

I can give you a copy, Minister, if that helps you.

You don't have a copy of your own estimates, Madam Minister?

3:40 p.m.

Conservative

Diane Finley Conservative Haldimand—Norfolk, ON

We have it in a different format.

The amount of expenditures.... You were referring to the Bill C-50 public notice campaign, were you?

3:40 p.m.

Liberal

Jim Karygiannis Liberal Scarborough—Agincourt, ON

My question is this. How much of that transportation and communication cost on page 56 was for advertising done by the department with respect to part 6 of Bill C-50?

3:40 p.m.

Conservative

Diane Finley Conservative Haldimand—Norfolk, ON

Part 6 of Bill C-50 was funded through interim supply.

3:40 p.m.

Liberal

Jim Karygiannis Liberal Scarborough—Agincourt, ON

Okay, so this was not funded through that?

3:40 p.m.

Conservative

Diane Finley Conservative Haldimand—Norfolk, ON

That's correct.

3:40 p.m.

Liberal

Jim Karygiannis Liberal Scarborough—Agincourt, ON

Absolutely?

3:45 p.m.

Wayne Ganim Chief Financial Officer, Finance Branch, Department of Citizenship and Immigration

Just let me make a clarification here.

This is basically money that's included in all the supplementary estimate items, and for the public notices that are talked about, that would be coming from the total allocation there in terms of the $3.2 million. The additional advertising, should it take place, basically will be coming from another centrally managed pot within another government department, which will be transferred to the department later on during the year.

3:45 p.m.

Liberal

Jim Karygiannis Liberal Scarborough—Agincourt, ON

Do you have an authorization to transfer that money yet, which you already allocated for advertising?

3:45 p.m.

Chief Financial Officer, Finance Branch, Department of Citizenship and Immigration

Wayne Ganim

We do not have that authorization as we speak today, sir, but we're getting it.

3:45 p.m.

Liberal

Jim Karygiannis Liberal Scarborough—Agincourt, ON

So you've spent that money?

3:45 p.m.

Conservative

Diane Finley Conservative Haldimand—Norfolk, ON

No, we haven't.