Evidence of meeting #31 for Indigenous and Northern Affairs in the 44th Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was water.

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On the agenda

MPs speaking

Also speaking

Meeka Atagootak  Elder, Hamlet of Pond Inlet, As an Individual
Merrill Harris  Reeve, Municipal District of Taber
Kurt Eby  Director, Regulatory Affairs and Government Relations, Pelmorex Corp
Sarah Sunday-Diabo  Chief, Mohawk Council of Akwesasne
Lucas King  Director, Territorial Planning Unit, Grand Council Treaty No. 3
Dwayne Thomas  Chief, Mohawk Council of Akwesasne
Clerk of the Committee  Ms. Vanessa Davies

12:55 p.m.

Liberal

Vance Badawey Liberal Niagara Centre, ON

Thank you, Mr. Chairman.

Mr. Chairman, before you adjourn the meeting, I have two questions, if I may.

One is with respect to the study we are discussing today. When are we expecting to discuss drafting instructions?

12:55 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Marc Garneau

On that question, given the fact that last week we agreed among ourselves, with a couple of amendments, to focus priority on Bill C-29, that will take us to October 28 for the last session. Then, of course, we have to follow that up by doing clause-by-clause consideration in an expeditious manner, so we're into early November.

I would just add that I mentioned two other things that we need to revisit. One is the updated NIHB report, which the analysts are going to update, given the amendments, new resolutions and new recommendations that we proposed. Also, at some point—this Thursday, for example—we were going to look at future studies. The drafting instructions for this study are important as well.

In the coming days and weeks we should decide what should come right after Bill C-29. Should it be how quickly we want to do one of the three? Which of the three should we do, and in which order? Should it be the drafting instructions, the NIHB report or deciding on future studies, and in what order?

Mr. Schmale, go ahead.

12:55 p.m.

Conservative

Jamie Schmale Conservative Haliburton—Kawartha Lakes—Brock, ON

Chair, given the fact that we on this side could potentially have one more week left in our time here, could we use time later this week to talk about drafting instructions? I don't want to leave navigating this to the new group, who will have no idea of what has been said in the past.

12:55 p.m.

Liberal

Vance Badawey Liberal Niagara Centre, ON

Are you leaving us?

12:55 p.m.

Conservative

Jamie Schmale Conservative Haliburton—Kawartha Lakes—Brock, ON

I don't know. We don't know. If you could message Pierre, that would be awesome. Maybe later in Question Period, you could throw a note that way. I will miss you too, Vance.

If we could get this part out of the way—I mean that in a nice way—before we leave, that would be great.

12:55 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Marc Garneau

I have a suggestion.

We said we wanted to start off with Bill C-29 this Thursday. That would probably be with the ministers coming. It's up to the committee to decide whether we might want to reserve 20 minutes at the end of that meeting to look at drafting instructions, so that the old gang from the Conservative Party—

12:55 p.m.

Liberal

Vance Badawey Liberal Niagara Centre, ON

The former gang.

1 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Marc Garneau

—the former gang can have an opportunity to speak up.

Is that something that would be acceptable?

1 p.m.

Conservative

Jamie Schmale Conservative Haliburton—Kawartha Lakes—Brock, ON

Did you say to take 20 minutes with the ministers?

1 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Marc Garneau

The ministers will be asked to be here on Thursday in connection with Bill C-29. It's the normal thing to invite the sponsoring ministers.

1 p.m.

Conservative

Jamie Schmale Conservative Haliburton—Kawartha Lakes—Brock, ON

Will they be here for two hours?

1 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Marc Garneau

That I don't know at this point. The committee hasn't made a decision on that. Normally they come for an hour, but that would leave us some time.

Do we have agreement on that, or is this another connected—

1 p.m.

Liberal

Vance Badawey Liberal Niagara Centre, ON

I want to put it forward that we set some time aside on Thursday afternoon.

1 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Marc Garneau

Do you mean out of the two hours?

1 p.m.

Liberal

Vance Badawey Liberal Niagara Centre, ON

Yes, that would be out of the two hours. Maybe for 20 minutes we could discuss some drafting instructions for—

1 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Marc Garneau

I'm sorry. We're talking about internal stuff here—

1 p.m.

Liberal

Vance Badawey Liberal Niagara Centre, ON

The second question I would have, Mr. Chair, is with respect to Bill C-29. I'm assuming that the names of witnesses are to be submitted by October 5, which is this Wednesday.

1 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Marc Garneau

That's what we agreed to.

1 p.m.

Liberal

Vance Badawey Liberal Niagara Centre, ON

That's great. Thank you.

Finally, Mr. Chair, through you to the clerk, if we could have the amended and adopted Bill C-29 forwarded to the members so that we can be prepared, that would be wonderful.

October 3rd, 2022 / 1 p.m.

The Clerk of the Committee Ms. Vanessa Davies

The minutes will be posted later today for the meeting.

1 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Marc Garneau

Right, but he's also confirming that we will get the proposed changes to Bill C-29 that may be coming up to the members—

1 p.m.

The Clerk

No. Not the motions.

1 p.m.

Liberal

Vance Badawey Liberal Niagara Centre, ON

[Inaudible—Editor] on Bill C-29. We can have that forwarded.

1 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Marc Garneau

Yes. As you know, any proposed changes will go through the legislative clerks, to see what shape they're in and if they're allowable. They'll then go to the clerk, who will distribute them.

1 p.m.

Liberal

Vance Badawey Liberal Niagara Centre, ON

That will hopefully be before Thursday.