Evidence of meeting #103 for Industry, Science and Technology in the 42nd Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was rights.
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Liberal
Frank Baylis Liberal Pierrefonds—Dollard, QC
Would this Australian model work for the libraries or the institutions?
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Chief Librarian, University of Toronto Scarborough, Canadian Federation of Library Associations
The Australian model also has “fair use”.
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Liberal
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Chief Librarian, University of Toronto Scarborough, Canadian Federation of Library Associations
It's a broader interpretation because it's “such as”. It would be broader than the current fair dealing exceptions in Canada. If we're moving to a broader fair dealing environment, libraries would be very supportive of it.
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Liberal
Frank Baylis Liberal Pierrefonds—Dollard, QC
That would be something that we should investigate more, then.
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Chief Librarian, University of Toronto Scarborough, Canadian Federation of Library Associations
With the licensing, we'd be very cautious about it, because with public institutions in Canada, we are.... This is public money. I think we have to have due diligence, and we are coming from a history where we paid twice for materials, so part of this is reconciling that we're not paying—
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Liberal
Frank Baylis Liberal Pierrefonds—Dollard, QC
I understand that, but from your perspective, is this Australian model something that we should investigate more?
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Chief Librarian, University of Toronto Scarborough, Canadian Federation of Library Associations
With the fair dealing and the fair use, yes, if it's broader—not regarding the licensing.
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Liberal
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President and Chief Executive Officer, Colleges and Institutes Canada
I won't add anything. Victoria mentioned it.
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President, Association of Canadian Publishers
The Canadian tariff in place for K-to-12 is less than $2.50 per full-time equivalent, so there is a lot of room between there and $17 to talk about what's in included in a licence or a tariff. We're in business. We're ready to talk.
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Liberal
The Chair Liberal Dan Ruimy
That's excellent.
On that note, I would like to thank our witnesses for coming in today. You've all been very respectful with one another and have given us some interesting points of view that we are going to need as we continue further down this path. I thank you for coming in today and for your contribution.
I thank everybody else. We are adjourned.