Evidence of meeting #104 for Industry, Science and Technology in the 42nd Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was investments.

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MPs speaking

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John Knubley  Deputy Minister, Department of Industry

4:50 p.m.

Deputy Minister, Department of Industry

John Knubley

No, because the issue is that there's confidentiality with respect to individual firms, so all that we actually release—

4:50 p.m.

Liberal

Navdeep Bains Liberal Mississauga—Malton, ON

With respect to Kinder Morgan, as you know, right now we're looking at our financial and legislative options, so in the estimates you will not find any allocation for that.

4:55 p.m.

Conservative

Michelle Rempel Conservative Calgary Nose Hill, AB

We don't know how much money you've given to companies so far—

4:55 p.m.

Liberal

Navdeep Bains Liberal Mississauga—Malton, ON

No, we're just going to get you the accurate number.

4:55 p.m.

Conservative

Michelle Rempel Conservative Calgary Nose Hill, AB

Okay. Do you have it yet?

4:55 p.m.

Liberal

Navdeep Bains Liberal Mississauga—Malton, ON

We're going to get that to you momentarily.

4:55 p.m.

Conservative

Michelle Rempel Conservative Calgary Nose Hill, AB

Well, you're just sitting there.

4:55 p.m.

Liberal

Navdeep Bains Liberal Mississauga—Malton, ON

Yes, our official is making sure that we get you the correct number.

4:55 p.m.

Conservative

Michelle Rempel Conservative Calgary Nose Hill, AB

So we don't know how much money you've spent on companies.

4:55 p.m.

Liberal

Navdeep Bains Liberal Mississauga—Malton, ON

No, we do have the number. We're getting you that number.

4:55 p.m.

Conservative

Michelle Rempel Conservative Calgary Nose Hill, AB

Why can't I just have that right now?

4:55 p.m.

Liberal

Navdeep Bains Liberal Mississauga—Malton, ON

You asked, and I appreciate your patience. I'd ask you to endeavour to be a bit more patient. We'll definitely get you that information. I just want to clarify the record: we do have that number. We'll get you that number.

4:55 p.m.

Conservative

Michelle Rempel Conservative Calgary Nose Hill, AB

To clarify, you as the minister, in charge of signing off on this, don't know how much money you've spent on companies.

4:55 p.m.

Liberal

Navdeep Bains Liberal Mississauga—Malton, ON

No, I do know.

4:55 p.m.

Conservative

Michelle Rempel Conservative Calgary Nose Hill, AB

Then what is it?

4:55 p.m.

Liberal

Navdeep Bains Liberal Mississauga—Malton, ON

You asked for a specific number, and we'll get you that number momentarily.

4:55 p.m.

Conservative

Michelle Rempel Conservative Calgary Nose Hill, AB

What about you, Mr. Knubley? You're in charge of this as well.

4:55 p.m.

Liberal

Navdeep Bains Liberal Mississauga—Malton, ON

It's the same answer. It hasn't changed in the last three seconds.

4:55 p.m.

Conservative

Michelle Rempel Conservative Calgary Nose Hill, AB

I guess, you know, trying to figure out how many jobs have been created—

4:55 p.m.

Liberal

Navdeep Bains Liberal Mississauga—Malton, ON

We'll get you that information as well, absolutely. We'll get you the contributions and the jobs associated with that as well.

4:55 p.m.

Conservative

Michelle Rempel Conservative Calgary Nose Hill, AB

So we don't know how much you're going to be spending on...?

4:55 p.m.

Liberal

Navdeep Bains Liberal Mississauga—Malton, ON

We do know. We're just getting that information.

4:55 p.m.

Conservative

Michelle Rempel Conservative Calgary Nose Hill, AB

What about in Kinder Morgan? That's not in the budget at all right now.

4:55 p.m.

Liberal

Navdeep Bains Liberal Mississauga—Malton, ON

As we mentioned, these are estimates, and they primarily reflect approved Treasury Board submissions since December of 2017. Therefore, there's no provision in this for Kinder Morgan.

4:55 p.m.

Conservative

Michelle Rempel Conservative Calgary Nose Hill, AB

I'm at the end of my time, I think. Do we have an answer to that?