Evidence of meeting #120 for Industry, Science and Technology in the 42nd Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was songwriters.
A recording is available from Parliament.
5:20 p.m.
Liberal
Lloyd Longfield Liberal Guelph, ON
Thank you. This has been helpful.
I'll pass it over to Mr. Jowhari.
5:20 p.m.
Liberal
Majid Jowhari Liberal Richmond Hill, ON
Thank you.
In my prep work for the committee, we ran into a concept or notion called mash-up.
Have you heard about that? Can you quickly expand on it and say what the impact of that is on the industry, specifically the musicians?
I would love to hear from all of you.
5:20 p.m.
Secretary-Treasurer, Guilde des musiciens et musiciennes du Québec
Are you talking about including a number of musical pieces and radio mash-ups?
5:20 p.m.
Secretary-Treasurer, Guilde des musiciens et musiciennes du Québec
If I remember correctly, the problem posed by this involves remuneration, which is possibly less for all the rights holders. However, we haven't done any very detailed studies that would allow us to address this issue today.
5:25 p.m.
Vice-President from Canada (American Federation of Musicians), Canadian Federation of Musicians
Certainly when you have mash-up situations, there are multiple licences that should be paid for those particular uses. Oftentimes when you have mash-ups happen, especially from the public, they're not considering that there's intellectual property involved, that there's a rights holder who has to be asked for permission to use that, and a licence fee to be paid.
5:25 p.m.
Liberal
Majid Jowhari Liberal Richmond Hill, ON
A lot of radio stations with revenues of less than $1.5 million are doing a lot of mash-ups with less-than-30 seconds bits and pieces from each. How are they being exempted from paying these producers, songwriters, or musicians?
5:25 p.m.
Executive Director, Canadian Music Publishers Association
My understanding is that, when they're paying their neighbouring rights, the secret in getting paid is making sure that they're providing the metadata and the titles for each one of those titles. Then there will be payments
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Executive Director, Canadian Music Publishers Association
It's all coming down to good metadata.
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Liberal
The Chair Liberal Dan Ruimy
On that note, I would like to thank our witnesses for coming in today and sharing your multitude of information.
Before we break, I just want to talk to our committee. Next week, on the 11th and the 12th, we have the Canada-Ukraine Parliamentary Friendship Group. They're hosting the first vice-speaker of Parliament. We can't meet them on that date, so if we organized a breakfast or something, would there be people from the committee interested in attending?
5:25 p.m.
Liberal
Terry Sheehan Liberal Sault Ste. Marie, ON
I don't know. I don't have my schedule. If there are perogies, probably.
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Liberal
The Chair Liberal Dan Ruimy
Perogies. Okay, I'll see if we can do something on a Monday morning. Thank you.
On that note, once again, thank you very much. Have a great day.
We are adjourned.