Evidence of meeting #7 for Industry, Science and Technology in the 42nd Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was data.

A recording is available from Parliament.

On the agenda

MPs speaking

Also speaking

Wayne Smith  Chief Statistician of Canada, Statistics Canada
B. Mario Pinto  President, Natural Sciences and Engineering Research Council of Canada

5:10 p.m.

NDP

Brian Masse NDP Windsor West, ON

Thank you, Mr. Chair.

Mr. Smith, I'm curious in terms of outsourcing. Is Lockheed Martin still involved with regard to some of the operations and outsourcing that we have?

5:10 p.m.

Chief Statistician of Canada, Statistics Canada

5:10 p.m.

NDP

Brian Masse NDP Windsor West, ON

No, they're done. At one point—

5:10 p.m.

Chief Statistician of Canada, Statistics Canada

Wayne Smith

There's none.

5:10 p.m.

NDP

Brian Masse NDP Windsor West, ON

There is none.

Who has taken over that responsibility?

5:15 p.m.

Chief Statistician of Canada, Statistics Canada

April 12th, 2016 / 5:15 p.m.

NDP

Brian Masse NDP Windsor West, ON

It's back in house.

I thank you for that. I think it's an important point to make, because Canadians did speak well on this in terms of a moral issue.

Lockheed Martin, for anyone that was aware, conducted an activity that across the world is actually illegal. The use of cluster munitions and scatter bombs by Canada is not even legal because we've signed a convention treaty. As well, they've been involved in infamous projects such as the stars wars program.

A lot of Canadians felt compelled to state that this was very disturbing, because when munitions come over to Canada.... If you're an immigrant, like my grandfather and my wife were, those weapons could have been used on their families. Even some of the legal and illegal warfare that goes on was affecting their families, including places like Iraq most recently.

That's an important point to make because there was an actual public campaign about it, CountMeOut.ca. The Privacy Commissioner was involved. There are others that actually looked at the Patriot Act, including the privacy commissioners. I want to commend the in-house development of that because it gives confidence in the product that you provide which is very valuable.

Thank you.

5:15 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Dan Ruimy

You don't even have to answer.

That will conclude our interview with our witnesses.

I would like to thank our distinguished guests for coming here and being patient with us as we asked lots of great questions.

We are going to suspend. We have a few minutes while they switch over the translation. Then we're going to go in camera for the last 15 minutes and finish our things.

Thank you very much everybody.

[Proceedings continue in camera]