Evidence of meeting #94 for Industry, Science and Technology in the 42nd Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was access.

A recording is available from Parliament.

On the agenda

MPs speaking

Also speaking

Pierre Collins  Project Manager, Montcalm Télécom et fibres optiques
Donghoon Lee  Research Partner, Economist, R2B2, University of Guelph, SouthWestern Integrated Fibre Technology
Louis-Charles Thouin  President, Warden, Regional County Municipality of Montcalm, Montcalm Télécom et fibres optiques
John Meldrum  Vice-President, Corporate Counsel and Regulatory Affairs, SaskTel
Geoff Hogan  Chief Executive Officer, SouthWestern Integrated Fibre Technology
William Chen  Director, Wubim Foundation

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Chief Executive Officer, SouthWestern Integrated Fibre Technology

Geoff Hogan

That's correct.

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Liberal

Majid Jowhari Liberal Richmond Hill, ON

Okay, and then the infrastructure is owned by a combination of the public and private sectors. How do you recover the costs?

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Chief Executive Officer, SouthWestern Integrated Fibre Technology

Geoff Hogan

For seven years, it's a requirement that we own 51% as SWIFT, the not-for-profit. To get the private sector to bid, we have agreed that at the end of seven years they will own the infrastructure outright. Our rules will still apply because they've signed a contract with us. They will own it 100% at the end.

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Liberal

Majid Jowhari Liberal Richmond Hill, ON

How has the $500 million that we discussed played a role in this?

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Chief Executive Officer, SouthWestern Integrated Fibre Technology

Geoff Hogan

We were funded through the small communities fund, which is part of new building Canada, which is an infrastructure fund, not the Connect to Innovate program. Connect to innovate could have been used this way too, except they were more specific about their blue dots on the map that required service. As I said, some of the staff did analysis there.

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Liberal

Majid Jowhari Liberal Richmond Hill, ON

Thank you very much.

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Liberal

The Chair Liberal Dan Ruimy

I have a follow-up question to that. These are the most questions I've asked in two years.

You, as a company, SWIFT, are doing this. Would a small city be able to use that model in your place?

5:05 p.m.

Chief Executive Officer, SouthWestern Integrated Fibre Technology

Geoff Hogan

In a small city, there's a business case for the private sector to do the work. We don't see the need to subsidize them.

5:05 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Dan Ruimy

In some cases you don't have a lot of providers going to smaller cities because there's just not that business case. However, if the city were to look at this type of model, not only could they expand their broadband coverage but they could also bring in revenue if they were to sell their services.

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Chief Executive Officer, SouthWestern Integrated Fibre Technology

Geoff Hogan

We've had some smaller municipalities in our region do a model where the municipality puts the conduit and the fibre in, and then rents it to providers to provide services.

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Liberal

The Chair Liberal Dan Ruimy

All right, I want to thank everybody for testifying today. It has been very interesting.

This is our last day of testimony, and we will—

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Liberal

Mike Bossio Liberal Hastings—Lennox and Addington, ON

Thank you, Chair, for allowing me to be part of this.

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Liberal

The Chair Liberal Dan Ruimy

You're very welcome.

Before we say goodbye to everybody—

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Some hon. members

Goodbye everybody.

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Liberal

David Graham Liberal Laurentides—Labelle, QC

Connection reset by peer.

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Liberal

The Chair Liberal Dan Ruimy

Connection reset by peer? That's a geek thing, isn't it?

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Liberal

David Graham Liberal Laurentides—Labelle, QC

Ruining the connection.

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Some hon. members

Oh, oh!

5:05 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Dan Ruimy

All right.

Thank you all for coming.

Just to remind everybody, next Tuesday we have our technical briefing. We had word back that rather than having the Copyright Board on Thursday, all of the officials coming on Tuesday will be able to speak to what the Copyright Board does. That means that on Thursday we will give our drafting instructions on our broadband study to our analysts, and then we will start to strategize for our review of the Copyright Act after the technical briefings.

Thank you all very much. Have a super-duper weekend.

Thank you very much everyone.

We are adjourned.