Thank you very much, Chair, and thank you, everybody, for being here today.
In this third round, I'm dealing with a bit of cleanup, and I'm going to primarily talk to Mr. Juneau and Mr. Packer today.
Earlier today, you talked about how two variables connect with transnational oppression. As Canadians, we've long positioned ourselves as defenders of human rights on the global stage and have also helped to navigate complex geopolitical realities. You've argued for a more strategic interest-based approach to foreign policy here today. I'm wondering how Canada should balance values in terms of human rights with strategic interests when responding to some of these transnational regressions.