Evidence of meeting #49 for International Trade in the 42nd Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was ukraine.

A video is available from Parliament.

On the agenda

MPs speaking

Also speaking

Marvin Hildebrand  Chief Negotiator, Canada-Ukraine Free Trade Agreement, and Director General, Market Access, Department of Foreign Affairs, Trade and Development
Pierre Bouchard  Director, Bilateral and Regional Labour Affairs, Department of Employment and Social Development

12:40 p.m.

Liberal

Chrystia Freeland Liberal University—Rosedale, ON

As I have said, this is an issue on which we are consulting broadly and that my colleague, the Minister of Health, is working on.

I think it's very important for Canadians to understand that the impact of the new provisions in CETA on drug regulation will not fully take effect for a full eight years from the time that this agreement enters into force. It's important to be truthful with Canadians about that—

12:45 p.m.

NDP

Tracey Ramsey NDP Essex, ON

Agreed.

12:45 p.m.

Liberal

Chrystia Freeland Liberal University—Rosedale, ON

—and it is very important to appreciate that when it comes to drug prices, our government is very committed to working on that file, and it's important to understand that this is part of a broader drug pricing strategy—

12:45 p.m.

NDP

Tracey Ramsey NDP Essex, ON

Okay.

12:45 p.m.

Liberal

Chrystia Freeland Liberal University—Rosedale, ON

—and furthermore, that Canada does have high drug prices. It's something the government—

12:45 p.m.

NDP

Tracey Ramsey NDP Essex, ON

I'm sorry. I have—

12:45 p.m.

Liberal

Chrystia Freeland Liberal University—Rosedale, ON

—needs to work on and it is—

12:45 p.m.

NDP

Tracey Ramsey NDP Essex, ON

Minister, please. We only have five minutes.

12:45 p.m.

Liberal

Chrystia Freeland Liberal University—Rosedale, ON

It is very important to appreciate—

12:45 p.m.

NDP

Tracey Ramsey NDP Essex, ON

I have to ask, because—

12:45 p.m.

Liberal

Chrystia Freeland Liberal University—Rosedale, ON

Hang on, hang on—

12:45 p.m.

NDP

Tracey Ramsey NDP Essex, ON

—Health Canada was required to provide to the PBO—

12:45 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Mark Eyking

Ms. Ramsey, I'm just holding the clock.

I wanted this to be a productive meeting. I asked the minister if she could keep her answers short and I asked MPs if they can let the minister finish her answer, and then we'll have a better dialogue going back and forth.

You have one minute remaining, Ms. Ramsey, and you have the floor.

12:45 p.m.

NDP

Tracey Ramsey NDP Essex, ON

Thank you.

We know that Health Canada was required to provide one to the PBO study. Will you provide this to the committee and table all internal government studies around the analysis that you have?

12:45 p.m.

Liberal

Chrystia Freeland Liberal University—Rosedale, ON

As I've said, on the impact of CETA on drug pricing, this agreement has been carefully structured so that the full impact is not felt for a full eight years.

As I think we are all aware, this is a very fast-moving space, particularly when it comes to new developments, when it comes to issues of biologics, when it comes to the trade-off between generic and brand name drugs. Our response to CETA very much needs to be, and will be, embedded in broader work that my colleague, the Minister of Health, is doing on—

12:45 p.m.

NDP

Tracey Ramsey NDP Essex, ON

Is that a “yes”?

12:45 p.m.

Liberal

Chrystia Freeland Liberal University—Rosedale, ON

—drug pricing.

12:45 p.m.

NDP

Tracey Ramsey NDP Essex, ON

Is that a “yes”?

12:45 p.m.

Liberal

Chrystia Freeland Liberal University—Rosedale, ON

It is very important for Canadians not to be misled—

12:45 p.m.

NDP

Tracey Ramsey NDP Essex, ON

I agree, so we're asking for the studies.

12:45 p.m.

Liberal

Chrystia Freeland Liberal University—Rosedale, ON

—and not to believe—

12:45 p.m.

NDP

Tracey Ramsey NDP Essex, ON

I agree.

12:45 p.m.

Liberal

Chrystia Freeland Liberal University—Rosedale, ON

—that our drug pricing issues are chiefly around trade agreements.

12:45 p.m.

NDP

Tracey Ramsey NDP Essex, ON

So will you provide the studies?

12:45 p.m.

Liberal

Chrystia Freeland Liberal University—Rosedale, ON

As I have said—