On public procurements, I'm sorry. Why? Because the federal government does not have the capacity to impose that on the provinces, which is why the Europeans wanted us at the table. We were there, but also on issues related to education, health, access to the possibility of being present in the services sectors in these areas, where we explained why not.
In the case of NAFTA, my understanding is that the U.S. doesn't want the states in the U.S. to be present, so normally they shouldn't bother us with public procurements of the provinces, unless they give a commitment that the states in the U.S. will act with reciprocity.
In the case of TPP, it's something else. If we're talking about TPP-1, there was the presence of the provinces that were briefed. In the case of TPP-2, for me it's much more unclear as to how much the provinces can be briefed on what's happening in that unusual round, because of the decision of the United States to tear up the TPP.
On the rest, I think the presence of the provinces is a constructive element in any trade negotiation. Why? Because they can furnish both to the Canadian team, and sometimes to the other team, if the federal government judges it's worthwhile having these types of meetings, informally usually.... It's worthwhile so that people understand exactly what we're talking about on both sides and can commit in the same direction. That hasn't happened in TPP-2, but it is happening in a way in NAFTA, inasmuch as the quality of the briefing and the quality of the team at the federal level is absolutely exceptional.
I dare say I never thought I would see that today, but I think the Canadian team is better prepared than the U.S. team, with much less resources. In that sense, it's a good thing the provinces are there at every meeting amongst the Canadian delegation. Why? Because they can have an input on strategy. I saw it in CETA, not only on defending their turf, their constitutional attributions, or their interests in things that are a federal jurisdiction such as agricultural tariffs, but also in terms of strategy around the Canadian table. I think it has been used largely by Steve Verheul.