Evidence of meeting #41 for Justice and Human Rights in the 40th Parliament, 3rd Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was sentencing.

A recording is available from Parliament.

On the agenda

MPs speaking

Also speaking

Anthony Doob  Professor, Centre of Criminology, University of Toronto, As an Individual
Allan Manson  Professor, Queen's University, Faculty of Law, As an Individual
Ed McIsaac  Interim Director, Policy, John Howard Society of Canada
Sharon Rosenfeldt  President, Victims of Violence
Raymond King  As an Individual

5:25 p.m.

President, Victims of Violence

Sharon Rosenfeldt

Not at all, and again it's because he does not talk to victims. He does a lot of his work in the groups that work for offenders, so he's pro-offender. It's as simple as that. He's a very nice man, and so is Mr. Doob. All the criminologists and sociologists--all the “oligists”--are.

We're just not there yet. We speak in universities. Our time is coming, but we're not there yet, and it isn't a case of us versus them. I'm a member of the Citizen Advisory Committee for the Ottawa parole office, so I want to learn too.

I'm not a vengeful person, but there are just certain cases. Certain legislation is just not right in Canada, and it has to be looked at. We do represent a lot of victims across Canada. Maybe he should come to the victims of crime week and have a look at how many victims from across Canada come. That's in the third week of April every year. The justice department opens it.

There aren't any criminologists there who come and have a look at victims. They don't want any part of us.

5:25 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Ed Fast

Thank you again for helping us to refocus on what's really important, which is the victims. Thank you to all three of you.

The meeting is adjourned.