Evidence of meeting #106 for Justice and Human Rights in the 42nd Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was conditions.

A recording is available from Parliament.

On the agenda

MPs speaking

Also speaking

Tony Paisana  L & LR Coordinator, Canadian Bar Association
Michael Johnston  Barrister-at-Law, As an Individual
Kathryn Pentz  Vice-Chair, Canadian Bar Association
Rob Nicholson  Niagara Falls, CPC
Cheryl Webster  Professor, University of Ottawa, As an Individual
Anthony Doob  Professor Emeritus, Centre for Criminology and Sociolegal Studies, University of Toronto, As an Individual
Jane Sprott  Professor, Ryerson University, As an Individual
Nicole Myers  Department of Sociology, Queen's University, As an Individual
Rebecca Bromwich  Director, Conflict Resolution Program, Department of Law and Legal Studies, Carleton University, As an Individual
Kendall Yamagishi  External Relations Committee Member, Society of United Professionals
Garrett Zehr  External Relations Committee Member, Society of United Professionals
Stephanie Heyens  Senior Criminal Litigator, York Region, Legal Aid Ontario, As an Individual
Sarah Leamon  Criminal Defence Lawyer, Leamon Roudette Law Group, As an Individual
Sayeh Hassan  Criminal Defence Lawyer, Walter Fox & Associates, As an Individual
Brian Gover  President, The Advocates' Society
Geoffrey Cowper  Lawyer, Fasken Martineau DuMoulin LLP, As an Individual
Arif Virani  Parkdale—High Park, Lib.
Todd Doherty  Cariboo—Prince George, CPC

8:40 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Anthony Housefather

I don't want to overreach this. If you want to rephrase your question to bring it into Bill C-75, I'm allowing you to do so.

8:40 p.m.

Cariboo—Prince George, CPC

Todd Doherty

Ms. Leamon, you were asked to submit testimony on ways that perhaps could reduce court delays. Not being a lawyer, as are many others around the table, I read your brief, and one of the suggestions that you brought up was the prompt filling of judicial vacancies.

Can you perhaps provide some of your own experiences with regard to a lack of available judges?

8:45 p.m.

Criminal Defence Lawyer, Leamon Roudette Law Group, As an Individual

Sarah Leamon

I can. I can tell you that this problem is most frequently occurring in more remote communities, so practising in Vancouver in the Lower Mainland—

8:45 p.m.

Cariboo—Prince George, CPC

Todd Doherty

Or in areas like Cariboo—Prince George, where I am.

8:45 p.m.

Criminal Defence Lawyer, Leamon Roudette Law Group, As an Individual

Sarah Leamon

Yes, exactly. Prince George is a place that does regularly experience judicial vacancies—

8:45 p.m.

Cariboo—Prince George, CPC

Todd Doherty

Absolutely.

8:45 p.m.

Criminal Defence Lawyer, Leamon Roudette Law Group, As an Individual

Sarah Leamon

—and there are places like that throughout northern British Columbia.

There are places like Fort McMurray, for instance—

8:45 p.m.

Cariboo—Prince George, CPC

8:45 p.m.

Criminal Defence Lawyer, Leamon Roudette Law Group, As an Individual

Sarah Leamon

—my hometown. I practise there as well. There are two judges there, so if one judge is sick and the other one catches a cold—

8:45 p.m.

Cariboo—Prince George, CPC

Todd Doherty

Delays, delays.

8:45 p.m.

Criminal Defence Lawyer, Leamon Roudette Law Group, As an Individual

Sarah Leamon

Yes, there are all kinds of problems, so it's important for us to have all of these resources available. I do think it's important to make the point that funding legal aid is just as important as filling judicial vacancies as well, but we do have to approach it from a multi-faceted perspective, and that's just one element of it.

8:45 p.m.

Cariboo—Prince George, CPC

Todd Doherty

I appreciate that.

Thank you.

8:45 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Anthony Housefather

Thank you.

Again, colleagues, it's been a long day. I thank you all for your patience.

Thank you to our witnesses.

To the The Advocates' Society, thank you for coming in from Toronto. We really appreciate it.

To all three of you, thank you so much.

The meeting is adjourned.