Evidence of meeting #115 for Justice and Human Rights in the 42nd Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was move.

A recording is available from Parliament.

On the agenda

MPs speaking

Also speaking

Shannon Davis-Ermuth  Legal Counsel, Criminal Law Policy Section, Policy Sector, Department of Justice
Matthew Taylor  Acting Senior Counsel, Criminal Law Policy Section, Policy Sector, Department of Justice
Jacques Maziade  Legislative Clerk
Carole Morency  Director General and Senior General Counsel, Criminal Law Policy Section, Policy Sector, Department of Justice
James Maloney  Etobicoke—Lakeshore, Lib.

4:25 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Anthony Housefather

Hello, colleagues. Thank you very much for your patience everyone.

We will reconvene at this point. Given the room that we're in, we probably need to put in the earpieces. It's hard to hear in here.

(On clause 162)

We are at clause 162, as we resume our study of Bill C-75, and we're at CPC-101.

Mr. Cooper.

4:25 p.m.

Conservative

Michael Cooper Conservative St. Albert—Edmonton, AB

Thank you, Mr. Chair.

This amendment is in relation to a reclassification under Bill C-75. It would seek to maintain the offence of a threat against internationally protected persons as a solely indictable offence.

4:25 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Anthony Housefather

Thank you very much, Mr. Cooper.

(Amendment negatived [See Minutes of Proceedings])

(Clause 162 agreed to)

Amendment X-119 is not receivable anymore.

(Clauses 163 and 164 agreed to on division)

(On clause 165)

On clause 165, we get to CPC-102.

Mr. Cooper.

4:25 p.m.

Conservative

Michael Cooper Conservative St. Albert—Edmonton, AB

Yes. This is another amendment on reclassification. Bill C-75 would make the serious indictable offence of arson for a fraudulent purpose a hybrid offence. It's very difficult to understand why such a serious offence would be treated as a hybrid offence, and this amendment would keep it as solely indictable.

4:25 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Anthony Housefather

Thank you very much.

(Amendment negatived [See Minutes of Proceedings])

(Clause 165 agreed to)

(On clause 166)

We're at clause 166, and CPC-103.

Mr. Cooper.

4:25 p.m.

Conservative

Michael Cooper Conservative St. Albert—Edmonton, AB

Chair, again this is an amendment dealing with reclassification in Bill C-75. It seeks to maintain the offence of arson by negligence as a solely indictable offence.

4:25 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Anthony Housefather

Thank you very much.

(Amendment negatived [See Minutes of Proceedings])

(Clause 166 agreed to)

(Clause 167 agreed to on division)

(On clause 168)

4:25 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Anthony Housefather

We're on CPC-104.

4:25 p.m.

Conservative

Michael Cooper Conservative St. Albert—Edmonton, AB

This is again a reclassification amendment to amend C-75 such that the offence of interfering with saving of a wrecked vessel would be maintained as solely indictable.

(Amendment negatived [See Minutes of Proceedings])

(Clause 168 agreed to)

(On clause 169)

4:25 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Anthony Housefather

On clause 169, we get to CPC-105.

Mr. Cooper.

4:25 p.m.

Conservative

Michael Cooper Conservative St. Albert—Edmonton, AB

This again is a reclassification amendment that would maintain the subject offence as a solely indictable offence. That offence relates to everyone who wilfully alters, removes or conceals a signal, buoy or other sea-mark that is used for purposes of navigation.

(Amendment negatived [See Minutes of Proceedings])

(Clause 169 agreed to)

(On clause 170)

4:30 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Anthony Housefather

On clause 170, we get to CPC-106 and LIB-9. They do not have a line conflict, if I'm correct. They both can be moved.

First, we'll go to CPC-106.

Mr. Cooper.

4:30 p.m.

Conservative

Michael Cooper Conservative St. Albert—Edmonton, AB

This is another reclassification amendment. This specific amendment would maintain the offence of removing a natural bar without permission as a solely indictable offence.

(Amendment negatived [See Minutes of Proceedings])

4:30 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Anthony Housefather

We will move to LIB-9.

Mr. Fraser.

4:30 p.m.

Liberal

Colin Fraser Liberal West Nova, NS

With respect to LIB-9, can I ask the department's interpretation—

4:30 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Anthony Housefather

It's basically adding the word “property” back into the code. The word “property” was omitted and is being returned in two places. It will say “movable property” and “immovable property”, whereas the bill only had said “moveable” and “immovable” without the word “property”.

4:30 p.m.

Liberal

Colin Fraser Liberal West Nova, NS

Thank you, Mr. Chair.

Given that it is a clarification, basically a technical amendment, I would be in favour of that amendment.

(Amendment agreed to [See Minutes of Proceedings])

(Clause 170 as amended agreed to)

(On clause 171)

4:30 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Anthony Housefather

We get to CPC-107.

Mr. Cooper.

4:30 p.m.

Conservative

Michael Cooper Conservative St. Albert—Edmonton, AB

This is another reclassification amendment. This specific amendment would maintain the offence of interfering with international boundary marks as solely indictable.

(Amendment negatived [See Minutes of Proceedings])

(Clause 171 agreed to )

4:30 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Anthony Housefather

For clause 172, amendment X-130 is no longer receivable.

(Clauses 172 to 176 inclusive agreed to on division)

(On clause 177)

We get to clause 177 and CPC-108.

Mr. Cooper.

4:30 p.m.

Conservative

Michael Cooper Conservative St. Albert—Edmonton, AB

Again, this is a reclassification amendment dealing with everyone who, without lawful justification or excuse, the proof of which lies on him, has in his custody or possession gold or sliver filings or clippings. This amendment would maintain that specific offence as a solely indictable offence.

(Amendment negatived [See Minutes of Proceedings])

(Clause 177 agreed to)

(On clause 178)

4:30 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Anthony Housefather

Now we move to clause 178 and CPC-109.

4:30 p.m.

Conservative

Michael Cooper Conservative St. Albert—Edmonton, AB

We go on to CPC-109. This again is a reclassification amendment to retain the subject offence as a solely indictable one.

4:30 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Anthony Housefather

Thank you very much.

(Amendment negatived [See Minutes of Proceedings])

(Clause 178 agreed to)

(On clause 179)

On clause 179, we have CPC-110.

Mr. Cooper.

4:30 p.m.

Conservative

Michael Cooper Conservative St. Albert—Edmonton, AB

Again, it's a reclassification amendment. This amendment is relating to the offence of advertising and dealing with counterfeit money. This amendment would maintain that offence as a solely indictable offence.