Evidence of meeting #158 for Justice and Human Rights in the 42nd Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was victims.
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June 13th, 2019 / 9:20 a.m.
Liberal
The Chair Liberal Anthony Housefather
Order, please. We're going to resume, and I'll give the floor to Mr. Boissonnault to tell us what he would like to propose.
9:20 a.m.
Liberal
Randy Boissonnault Liberal Edmonton Centre, AB
We're essentially just going to strike the last clause out. It's “That the Committee recommends that the name of the attacker, as well as any quoted portion of his manifesto, and the section of the audio pertaining to these comments, be expunged from the Committee's Hansard.”
This refers to the testimony by Mr. Cooper when we had Mr. Suri and Mr. Hussain here.
In French, we just have to end the sentence after the words “Hansard du Comité”. Period, new paragraph.
9:20 a.m.
Liberal
The Chair Liberal Anthony Housefather
I think I should advise the committee that I don't think that would be the correct wording if the intention is for the committee to strike this itself. “Recommend” wouldn't be the right word then. What you want to achieve—
9:20 a.m.
Liberal
9:20 a.m.
Liberal
The Chair Liberal Anthony Housefather
—just so I understand, is that the committee do it itself and not that it have the House do it.
9:20 a.m.
Liberal
Randy Boissonnault Liberal Edmonton Centre, AB
That's correct. There were 650 consensus motions at the House, and we failed to get unanimous consent. We would like to remove this. We would like this committee to vote to remove it from the Hansard.
9:20 a.m.
Liberal
The Chair Liberal Anthony Housefather
—the clerk is going to suggest the appropriate wording for the committee to consider, because “recommend” would be recommending to somebody.
9:20 a.m.
Liberal
The Chair Liberal Anthony Housefather
The clerk is telling us that in order for the committee to do it itself, the wording he is suggesting would be “that the name of the attacker, as well as any quoted portion of his manifesto and the section of audio pertaining to these comments, be struck from the committee's evidence.” That's what he is suggesting.
9:20 a.m.
Conservative
Pierre Paul-Hus Conservative Charlesbourg—Haute-Saint-Charles, QC
It may be clear to you, but we are not too sure what you are talking about.
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Conservative
Michael Barrett Conservative Leeds—Grenville—Thousand Islands and Rideau Lakes, ON
Mr. Chair, which attacker, which manifesto, which meeting, what time, and who was the speaker? My question is, could this be any more vague? We need some details on it, and unfortunately it's going to require much specificity to do so, but I think that's required. Otherwise this gives the committee clerk the opportunity to erase from the committee record any mention of anyone who has ever committed any type of attack, anyone who has ever quoted any part of any manifesto, going back for however long this committee has been sitting, and any audio that has any relevance to any aforementioned attacks or manifestos, and then it reaches into the committee's Hansard and we make this very vague recommendation to the House.
9:20 a.m.
Liberal
Randy Boissonnault Liberal Edmonton Centre, AB
This motion pertains to Mr. Cooper's question to Mr. Suri during testimony at committee during the hearings on online hate. He was here on only one day. It's the question that Mr. Cooper put to Mr. Suri during Mr. Suri's appearance here at committee, during our online hate study, and this motion refers to the attacker in the Christchurch massacre in New Zealand. That's pretty specific.
9:20 a.m.
NDP
Tracey Ramsey NDP Essex, ON
I strongly support this motion. I would like to see this removed from the record as well, and I think that being specific in this case would be helpful. We can name the date, the time—
9:20 a.m.
NDP
Tracey Ramsey NDP Essex, ON
That's all I'm saying. I think we should add that in here to be specific, and absolutely the NDP supports the removal from the public record. It should never have been on the public record. It certainly wasn't a name that I knew or any of us knew until it was read into the record here, because there have been great efforts in New Zealand and elsewhere to not share the name of this person. I think if we could be more specific about the things that need to be removed, then absolutely that's something that we should do.
9:25 a.m.
Liberal
Randy Boissonnault Liberal Edmonton Centre, AB
Mr. Chair, we can add May 28 to the date and we can add the name of the member of Parliament for St. Albert—Edmonton, Mr. Cooper, who posed the question to Mr. Faisal Suri at committee testimony on May 28 related to the manifesto of the attacker at the Christchurch massacre in Christchurch, New Zealand.
