Evidence of meeting #18 for Justice and Human Rights in the 42nd Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was preamble.

A recording is available from Parliament.

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MPs speaking

Also speaking

Joanne Klineberg  Senior Counsel, Criminal Law Policy Section, Department of Justice

4:40 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Anthony Housefather

If the issue is substantive, then let's have a vote on the substantive question.

The question is on amendment CPC-38.1.

(Amendment negatived [See Minutes of Proceedings])

Next we move to amendment CPC-39 from Mr. Kmiec.

4:40 p.m.

Liberal

Colin Fraser Liberal West Nova, NS

Mr. Chair, I want to recognize that we're on Queen Street and I want to make sure we have enough time to get to the votes.

4:40 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Anthony Housefather

You're absolutely right.

The question I'd like to ask the committee is, would you like to only come back after the third vote or do you want to come back in between two and three?

Is everybody good with that? The question is whether we come back between votes two and three, but they seem to say yes, we should come back.

4:40 p.m.

Liberal

Colin Fraser Liberal West Nova, NS

The only thing I could propose, though, is that if some of us have to meet, maybe it's easier, if it's going to take 10, 15, or 20 minutes, to meet in Centre Block and not come back from there until after vote three.

4:40 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Anthony Housefather

You mean, to work out the wording on the palliative care and....

4:40 p.m.

Liberal

Colin Fraser Liberal West Nova, NS

I'll leave that open to my friend.

4:40 p.m.

NDP

Murray Rankin NDP Victoria, BC

Why don't we meet over there in any event and then see whether we can huddle, if we have a few minutes before or after, and then come back with this? Perhaps we can do both, in other words.

4:40 p.m.

Liberal

Colin Fraser Liberal West Nova, NS

That's perfect.

4:40 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Anthony Housefather

The meeting is suspended.

5:25 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Anthony Housefather

We are now reconvening this meeting of the Standing Committee on Justice and Human Rights. We are resuming our work on the amendments to the preamble of Bill C-14.

Before we do so, I have a small housekeeping note.

Mr. Rankin, in the amendment that was just unanimously adopted—we had this discussion yesterday, and probably should have dealt with it at the time—the word “enactment” is not the right.... The clerk advises me we should put the word “act”.

5:25 p.m.

NDP

Murray Rankin NDP Victoria, BC

That is perfectly fine with us. We struggled with the right word as well.

5:25 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Anthony Housefather

Is everyone in agreement? He's going to administer the change, from “enactment” to “act”.

5:25 p.m.

Some hon. members

Agreed.

5:25 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Anthony Housefather

Thank you; that's perfect.

Now we're on amendment CPC-39, from Mr. Kmiec. I'm not sure whether anyone wishes to put this one forward.

5:25 p.m.

Conservative

Ted Falk Conservative Provencher, MB

I don't think there's a mover.

5:25 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Anthony Housefather

There's no mover. We're going to move beyond amendment CPC-39. We'll move to amendment NDP-8.

5:25 p.m.

NDP

Murray Rankin NDP Victoria, BC

I believe that is no longer relevant.

5:25 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Anthony Housefather

Right. I think you had done this in association with a different theme for the body—

5:25 p.m.

NDP

Murray Rankin NDP Victoria, BC

—for the advance request. Since that didn't succeed, there's no purpose for this amendment.

5:25 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Anthony Housefather

Amendment NDP-8, then, is not moved.

Then we move to amendment CPC-39.1.

5:25 p.m.

Conservative

Ted Falk Conservative Provencher, MB

Thank you, Mr. Chair.

This is a motion to amend the preamble saying that where a person is able....

There are quite a few problematic things here that are going to create a problem. I'm just going to withdraw it.

5:25 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Anthony Housefather

Thank you, because we would have had to drop the word “terminal”.

Then we move to amendments that everyone was working on related to palliative care.

I'm wondering who will be starting with that.

5:30 p.m.

Liberal

Colin Fraser Liberal West Nova, NS

We need a few minutes, unfortunately, to complete that.

5:30 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Anthony Housefather

Can I ask for a short break for a few minutes while the drafters try to work together on this?

Perfect. We shall suspend.

5:45 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Anthony Housefather

We're resuming.

I'm going to call on Mr. Rankin to read what I believe is a consensus resolution.